[nagdu] here's what I wrote to daphne

Pickrell, Rebecca M. (TASCSD) REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com
Mon Jan 12 14:50:01 UTC 2009


All, 
I wrote to Daphna, and explained how a blind person detects blood in
urine. 
I told her that the same approach is used no matter who's urine, and
that the same applies for blood in stool. She wrote me a note back,
thanking me for the information. 
Did anybody get a response? 
Also, I am not able to pull up the blog. Can someone send me the article
and comment thread? 
Finally, PETA is annoyance. What real problems have they caused people,
other than by just being silly? 
Have they tried to steal dogs from schools or individuals? If so, can
somebody point me to actual cases/data? 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Margo and Elmo
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:45 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] here's what I wrote to daphne

Oh, Sue, you know, I hope you are wrong.  i dare this woman to have the,
I'll use a better word, guts to write me back.  I was going to use
another word but didn't know if the list moderators would take too
kindly to it.

Margo and Elmo
----- Original Message -----
From: "MS S TILLETT" <suetillett at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] here's what I wrote to daphne


> Bravo!  I doubt if you will hear anything back though.  I think they
are 
> one of those extremest groups with crazy notions.
>
>
>  Sue, and Wonder----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Margo and Elmo
>  To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:19 PM
>  Subject: [nagdu] here's what I wrote to daphne
>
>
>  here's what I wrote to the peta woman and I hope she doesn't send
PETA 
> after me.
>
>  it's below my signature.
>
>  margo and Elmo
>
>  I must respectfully wonder how you got the information we keep our
dogs 
> in harnesses 24 7.  That simply isn't true.  My dog is in harness
about 2 
> to 8 hours a day.
>
>  also, you state that the dogs do not get to romp and play with other 
> dogs.  Well, most of our dogs do.  My dog has several best friends who
are 
> canine and he has two feline siblings right here at home and they get 
> along.  he romps a lot with them and with other dogs and we play and
he 
> has human friends with whom he plays.
>
>  You say a blind person cannot tell if blood is in the urine.  There's
a 
> smell that's different.  Remember, we have our other senses.  somehow,
you 
> believe blind people are cruel, insensitive, and pitiful and helpless.
We 
> are not.
>
>  I was not raised to be pitiful and helpless and most of us weren't.
I am 
> wondering how you came to these inaccurate conclusions about blind
people.
>
>  Our guide dogs have many wonderful experiences and truly love what
they 
> do.  You should see my dog prance happily into his harness and his 
> excitement because of wondering where we'll go now.
>
>  I do not allow people to pet or talk with my dog while he is working
but 
> when he is not working which is most of the time, he has many friends
who 
> pet, hug and frolic with him.
>
>  You say hearing dogs live with a family.  Do you not think blind
people 
> have families?  or do you think blind people live alone all the time? 
> Blind people marry or don't, we raise kids, and, we can do these
things 
> without sight.
>
>  I am totally blind and live a very enriched life.  I do not need
sighted 
> caretakers to tell me about my dog's urine or other things--things I
can 
> judge for myself.  My dog also gets good veterinary care and I take
him 
> for the slightest question I may have about something.
>
>  I also want to emphasize that I am a capable, independent person and
do 
> not want or need sighted caretakers; I do not want or need sighted
guides 
> to guide me everywhere.
>
>  I hope you will find out the true capabilities of blind people and 
> therefore throwing out the negative attitudes and stereotypes you now
have 
> about blind people.
>
>
>  Margo Downey
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