[nagdu] My response

Tue Jan 13 15:59:02 UTC 2009

Jeffrey, you know, sometimes you just have to take risks and even if one 
person gets it who didn't get it before, progress has been made.

margo and Elmo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] My response

> Your points are well taken.  I fear, however, that you are feeding into
> their need for attention  and the media's need for material.
>
> With regard to the guitar.  I have mixed feelings about selling it.  It is 
> a
> "thing of beauty and joy for ever".  I don't need the money and enjoy the
> guitar, pride of ownership.  I am a third generation antiques dealer in
> addition to my primary vocation and love nice things.  I have a key wind, 
> 18
> carat gold, pocket watch with exquisite engraving made by America's 
> premier
> early watch makers, E Howard.  I could get $3,000 for it but the money 
> will
> pay for dental work or the like and the watch is gone.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 7:18 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] My response
>
> Jeff,
>    Though we may not be able to change the minds of PETA, as my response
> stated, responding to their irrational rants serve two purposes. The first
> is to provide accurate information to the public from a blind person's
> perspective on the issue. The second is to let the public know that there 
> is
>
> the National Federation of the blind and the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users. PETA makes these outrageous, fanatical statements because the
> media likes sensational, controversial stories. As you know, they generate
> responses because they outrage people and motivate them to post to their
> site, generating more traffic and allowing them to sell more advertising!
>    It also gets PETA's name out there. Their radical views have given them
> a great deal of press and made them a household name. The press may not
> always be positive, but remember what P.T Barnum said, "Say anything you
> want about me, just spell my name correctly!" and "There's no such thing 
> as
> bad publicity!"
>    BTW, I am still interested in learning more about your guitar. Don't
> forget to send me its serial number!
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion Gwizdala
>
> "
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeffrey Schwartz" <sidney.schwartz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] My response
>
>
>> My response is that you are wasting your time.  You can not change a
>> zealot's thinking.  It is like trying to talk a paranoid out of their
>> delusion.  All this chatter feeds their egos and prolongs the debate.
>> Save
>> your breath.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Marion & Martin
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 7:12 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] My response
>>
>> Sherri,
>>    don't hold your breath on PETA members "changing their minds". They 
>> are
>> not interested in the fact; they only confuse them! (smile)
>>
>> marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 11:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] My response
>>
>>
>>> Terrific job Merry. Hopefully, she will pay attention to our responses.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Merry Schoch" <merrys at verizon.net>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 9:24 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] My response
>>>
>>>
>>>>I posted this to the L.A. Times blog as well as sending it to this woman
>>>>who is so misinformed.   Below is my response:
>>>>
>>>> Ms. Nachminovitch,
>>>>
>>>> Your comments on the Los Angeles Times blog L.A. Unleashed is full of
>>>> myths and misconceptions.  It is unfortunate that you have such views,
>>>> and I am curious how such ideas have been created for you to promulgate
>>>> such myths.  I am hoping that individuals who read this blog do not buy
>>>> into these untruths.  I find you comments very offensive; however,
>>>> ignorance and lack of experience of certain situations can cause one to
>>>> promulgate such atrocities.
>>>>
>>>> I  have not only been a puppyraiser I am also a guide dog user.  My
>>>> first
>>
>>>> guide is 12 years old, and he will be with me until he expires.  He
>>>> lives
>>
>>>> with two other dogs, and when he was working he had many hours in the
>>>> day
>>
>>>> in which to play and relax.  One of his playmates belong to my husband,
>>>> and she is a guide dog as well.  She will be 12 years old in a few
>>>> months
>>
>>>> and will also be with us until her life has ended.  Some individuals 
>>>> may
>>>> not be as fortunate as us by being able to keep their retired dogs, but
>>>> these individuals do not need to be bashed when they are giving up a
>>>> guide that they have loved for many years.
>>>>
>>>> I invite you to visit guide dog users and guide dog schools from across
>>>> this nation.  We will meet in Detroit in July.  Please go to 
>>>> www.nfb.org
>>>> and find details regarding our national convention.  You will learn so
>>>> much about guide dog schools, the dogs, and the users.  Most of all, 
>>>> you
>>>> will learn the immense capabilities of the blind regardless of the
>>>> mobility tools they choose.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Merry Schoch
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nagdu:
>>>>
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/flmom2006%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nagdu mailing list
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nagdu:
>>>
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/swampfox1833%40verizo
>> n.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sidney.schwartz%40sbc
>> global.net
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nagdu mailing list
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nagdu:
>>
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/swampfox1833%40verizo
> n.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nagdu mailing list
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nagdu:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/sidney.schwartz%40sbc
> global.net
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nagdu mailing list
> nagdu at nfbnet.org
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nagdu:
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/margo.downey%40verizon.net 