[nagdu] PETA opposes the use of guide dogs

Fri Jan 16 02:32:58 UTC 2009

And that's fine too. When I retired my first guide, I was young, in
college, but more importantly, at that time in my life I had realized
that i didn't want to deal with the daily stuff that goes along with
having a dog, much less a guide dog. AS time went by when working
without a dog, I enjoyed being able to feel my surroundings and using
my cane. I did decide to get another guide last year though due to
several factors. I remember one of the things that my instructor said
to me on the first day at The Seeing Eye, when we were chatting in my
room. He said, "You're here because you want to be here, not because
someone told you to come or because you rushed into it." All told,
there were 9 complete years abetween when I retired the first guide
and when I went back for dog number 2. Take some time, go use the
cane. Get back into being able to "feel" your environment. Who knows,
you might find that you end up using the cane for several years before
you go back to get your third dog, or perhaps you'll end up using a
cane for more than that. Either way, I'm not sure anyone who has truly
experienced one guide, can ever really not go back for another. Like
others have said relating to other things, once you get that first sip
or taste, you can't stop.

Wayne

On 1/14/09, helene ryles <dreamavdb at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Linda
> No, Jilli is my 2nd dog. My first dog had to be rehomed because he
> started being agressive towards children that thried to approach me.
>    I felt very bad about this and so I really don't want to do the
> same with Jilli.  Plus their really isn't the neccessity since Jilli
> isn't agressive or Overprotective like Bruce was. Saying that he
> worked for 9 and a half years which wasn't too bad considering his
> temproment.
>
> I may get a 3rd dog eventually but I'm determined to try my hand with
> the long cane first.
>
> Helene
>
> On 13/01/2009, lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com <lindagwizdak at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> Guys, nastiness only reduces us to the level of the person we're nasty to.
>>
>> I'd say that this Daphne person is that - DAFT (nuts)!  You can't educate
>> them at all!  We can educate the rest of society who will then blow off
>> people like Daphne (smile).
>>
>> Linda and Landon
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chasity Jackson" <chasityvanda at charter.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] PETA opposes the use of guide dogs
>>
>>
>>>I just wrote her a nasty e-mail myself. LOL.
>>>
>>> What do you mean they've been after us for a long time? Have they been
>>> successful at taking guide dogs away from their handlers?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Margo and Elmo" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] PETA opposes the use of guide dogs
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think she needs some emails.
>>>>
>>>> peta has been after us for a long time.
>>>>
>>>> margo and Elmo
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chasity Jackson" <chasityvanda at charter.net>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:24 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] PETA opposes the use of guide dogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >From an interview with Daphna Nachminovitch, Vice-President of Cruelty
>>>>> Investigations for PETA, in the Los Angeles Times blog L.A. Unleashed
>>>>> (posted 1/10/09):
>>>>>
>>>>> [NACHMINOVITCH:] There will never be a perfect world, but in the world
>>>>> we're in now, we support some working dog situations and decry others.
>>>>> Hearing dog programs that pull dogs from animal shelters and ensure
>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>> they are in safe and loving homes have our stamp of approval; they live
>>>>> with the family for their entire life, they learn interesting things,
>>>>> enjoy life, and love helping. On the other hand, we oppose most
>>>>> seeing-eye-dog programs because the dogs are bred as if there are no
>>>>> equally intelligent dogs literally dying for homes in shelters, they
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>> kept in harnesses almost 24/7, people are prohibited from petting or
>>>>> playing with them and they cannot romp and run and interact with other
>>>>> dogs; and their lives are repeatedly disrupted (they are trained for
>>>>> months in one home and bond, then sent to a second, and after years of
>>>>> bonding with the person they have "served," they are whisked away again
>>>>> because they are old and no longer "useful"). We have a member who is
>>>>> blind who actually moved states to avoid "returning" her beloved dog.
>>>>> We
>>>>>
>>>>> feel that the human community should do more to support blind people,
>>>>> and give dogs a break. A deaf person can see if a dog has a medical
>>>>> issue such as blood in her urine, a blind person living alone cannot,
>>>>> and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the whole article (with the option to leave a comment) here:
>>>>>
>>>>> <href="
>>>>> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/unleashed/2009/01/when-we-first-r.html>
>>>>> You can e-mail Daphna Nachminovitch at DaphnaN at peta.org
>>>>> , or call her at 757-622-7382, extension 1338.
>>>>>
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