[nagdu] A Discrimination Database

Sat Jan 24 19:28:24 UTC 2009

Marion and Joy,

I agree that this is an excellent idea!  Our website will soon be
database-driven, and this will be an excellent addition.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:27 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] A Discrimination Database

Joy,
    I think your idea of having a database of guide dog user discrimination 
cases is an excellent one. We have at least one attorney and one law student

on this list, so perhaps we can look into this for our website.

Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry and Joy Relton" <relton30857 at cox.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Enforcement

> Hi Marion,
>
> Do we have any sort of data base started recording various instances of
> discrimination with dog guides and the resolution? If not, that might be a
> good thing to start. I would be willing to help with it.
>
> Joy and Belle
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:41 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Enforcement
>
>
> Ron,
>    Please write to me off-list at
> president at nfb-nagdu.org
> In what state did this occur? There may be other options.
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users
> National Federation of the blind
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Davidson" <fuzzy_1 at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:42 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Enforcement
>
>
>>I found out recently that the ADA laws are not the easiest to get
>>enforced.
>>I was denied access to a local restraint with my guide dog and as I was
>>taught in school did not force my way in.  I explained the law to the
>>management and they still refused. They changed their mind after I asked
>>them to call the police to have me removed and they refused to do this so 
>>I
>
>>called the police and filed a complaint or report. When I got home I 
>>filled
>
>>out a complaint form with the DOJ and also with the state attorney 
>>generals
>
>>office  because I received a email from DOJ saying to do so. The state
>>attorneys generals office emailed me and told me they couldn't enforce the
>>federal law and to contact my local City ADA compliance office they sent 
>>me
>
>>to the district attorneys office and they sent me to the Human Rights
>>Commission. Then I received a letter from a law office that worked as
>>mediators and we set up and met with the restraint owners and worked out a
>>settlement. The restraint then broke the
>> contract of settlement with me and I recontacted the mediators office and
>> they said there was nothing more they could do. I contacted the DOJ and
>> they said the only thing I could do was privately sue the restraint and
>> the state has limitations on the amount I could receive and may not be
>> enough to cover my legal fees. Is this normally how this works a big run
>> around just to be dumped on. I think if we give local agencies the power
>> to enforce the ada laws that would help maybe I am wrong. By the way the
>> terms of the contract was that I and someone from the local low vision
>> center would train all their employees on how to deal with as far as 
>> sight
>
>> guiding and waiting on us and other things helpful for them to know just
>> some educating of the public and the management thought that was a great
>> idea.  But he never had a intensions of sticking to the terms of the
>> contract.
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