[nagdu] A Discrimination Database

Wed Jan 28 02:42:26 UTC 2009

Joy,
    we certainly have a great deal of talent on this list! When you have the 
chance, please give me a call. My contact information is below my signature.

fraternally,
Marion Gwizdala
813-626-2789
800-558-8261 president at nfb-nagdu.org


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Garry and Joy Relton" <relton30857 at cox.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] A Discrimination Database


> Marion and Tami,
>
> That sounds great to me. I graduated from law school over twenty years ago
> so can do research and more recently did advocacy work on disability 
> rights
> so this would definitely be up my alley. I've used data bases rarely but
> figure I can work things out. One suggestion that I have is that we 
> contact
> the dog guide schools because many of them have collected some of the
> information and would probably b able to give us a hand. Especially if
> appropriate credit was given for their efforts.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 2:28 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A Discrimination Database
>
>
> Marion and Joy,
>
> I agree that this is an excellent idea!  Our website will soon be
> database-driven, and this will be an excellent addition.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:27 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] A Discrimination Database
>
> Joy,
>    I think your idea of having a database of guide dog user discrimination
> cases is an excellent one. We have at least one attorney and one law 
> student
>
> on this list, so perhaps we can look into this for our website.
>
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Garry and Joy Relton" <relton30857 at cox.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Enforcement
>
>
>> Hi Marion,
>>
>> Do we have any sort of data base started recording various instances
>> of discrimination with dog guides and the resolution? If not, that
>> might be a good thing to start. I would be willing to help with it.
>>
>> Joy and Belle
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marion & Martin
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:41 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Enforcement
>>
>>
>> Ron,
>>    Please write to me off-list at
>> president at nfb-nagdu.org
>> In what state did this occur? There may be other options.
>>
>> Fraternally,
>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> National Federation of the blind
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ron Davidson" <fuzzy_1 at cox.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:42 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Enforcement
>>
>>
>>>I found out recently that the ADA laws are not the easiest to get
>>>enforced. I was denied access to a local restraint with my guide dog
>>>and as I was taught in school did not force my way in.  I explained
>>>the law to the management and they still refused. They changed their
>>>mind after I asked them to call the police to have me removed and they
>>>refused to do this so I
>>
>>>called the police and filed a complaint or report. When I got home I
>>>filled
>>
>>>out a complaint form with the DOJ and also with the state attorney
>>>generals
>>
>>>office  because I received a email from DOJ saying to do so. The state
>>>attorneys generals office emailed me and told me they couldn't enforce
>>>the federal law and to contact my local City ADA compliance office
>>>they sent me
>>
>>>to the district attorneys office and they sent me to the Human Rights
>>>Commission. Then I received a letter from a law office that worked as
>>>mediators and we set up and met with the restraint owners and worked
>>>out a settlement. The restraint then broke the  contract of settlement
>>>with me and I recontacted the mediators office and  they said there
>>>was nothing more they could do. I contacted the DOJ and  they said the
>>>only thing I could do was privately sue the restraint and  the state
>>>has limitations on the amount I could receive and may not be  enough
>>>to cover my legal fees. Is this normally how this works a big run
>>>around just to be dumped on. I think if we give local agencies the
>>>power  to enforce the ada laws that would help maybe I am wrong. By
>>>the way the  terms of the contract was that I and someone from the
>>>local low vision  center would train all their employees on how to
>>>deal with as far as  sight
>>
>>> guiding and waiting on us and other things helpful for them to know
>>> just some educating of the public and the management thought that was
>>> a great idea.  But he never had a intensions of sticking to the terms
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