[nagdu] Impressions Please?

Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS) REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com
Mon Jul 27 13:08:52 UTC 2009


Joy, 
I think you've got a couple options here. 
1. Designate how you define "try to pick up". Would asking for someone
to help count as trying? And if so, how is help defined? To that end,
you could ask if people want to serve as pooper scooper assistants like
what is done at convention? 
2. Your other option is to not allow dogs to run free. 
Finally, you can decide hosting these gatherings is not something your
family is up to at this time, knowing that when you open it to
everybody, you get people you aren't going to like. Nothing wrong with
this. 
Finally, know that people tend to treat your house like they would their
own so nothing should surprise you. 
My suggestion would be to figure out if you guys want to continue
hosting these events, then decide what can be done on a practical level
about dog poop. You can ask people to take an action all day long, but
it doesn't mean they will actually do it. 
I think it might help if you define what "try to pick up" means in the
context of these gatherings after you've decided if you want to continue
hosting and then go from there. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:42 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Joy,
    Not only do I agree with you, I would have no qualms making picking
up after your dog a contingency for attending any future events. The
person may not do so, but doing so is our social responsibility and, in
many communities, the law!

Fraternally yours,
Marion


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?


>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who
attended
> were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was purposed at
the
> behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide user and would
appreciate
> some input as to best handle the situation next time.
>
> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area,
basically
> doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I indicated that dog 
> guides
> were free to play free in the back yard which is fenced as long as
they 
> were
> supervised. In our back yard is a dog relieving area, since I happen
to 
> use
> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can
which
> was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to the handle.
My
> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with her
dog
> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband proceeded
to
> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up
after
> the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I wasn't
there, 
> or
> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all, I
am 
> the
> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves the
> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I 
> realize,
> that, when dogs are running free and playing it is difficult to know
where
> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is
particularly
> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially if
they
> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe that 
> having
> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you, have

> that
> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up
after
> your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that others should
do
> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I know
that
> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even attempt,
to
> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me. Impressions,
> opinions, observations, suggestions? a
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