[nagdu] Impressions Please?

[Joy Relton]

Thanks Marion. I am really trying not to be too snooty here. I think one of
my biggest objections to this behavior is the attitude the individual had
toward my husband. I guess he's her lackey who is the designated pooper
scooper and that burns me.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:45 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?


Joy,
    I believe, as I have already stated, that it is our social and legal 
responsibility to pick up after our dogs. I have been accused of being a 
little "snooty", too, but I also believe that, if a person cannot perform 
the basic duties of caring for their dog, including picking up after it, 
they should not have a dog!

fraternally,
Marion


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?


> Thanks Mary. Sometimes I think that it is easy to become a little 
> snooty about what one can and should do and I don't want to expect 
> from someone what they can't do. Having said that, I think that there 
> are ways to deal with one's short comings. We all have them, but we 
> all don't deal with them in the best way. Also, I guess there are 
> personalities. It just makes me wonder what people think if someone 
> from the public says "you shouldn't leave that for someone else". Do 
> they think having a right, gives them an entitlement. Or, am I being 
> too snobby?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Merry Schoch
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:45 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
>
> Joy,
>
> I absolutely agree with you!!
>
> Merry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?
>
>
>>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who 
>>attended  were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was 
>>purposed at the  behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide user 
>>and would appreciate  some input as to best handle the situation next 
>>time.
>>
>> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area, 
>> basically doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I indicated 
>> that dog guides were free to play free in the back yard which is 
>> fenced as long as they were supervised. In our back yard is a dog 
>> relieving area, since I happen to use
>> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can which
>> was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to the handle. My
>> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with her 
>> dog
>> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband proceeded to
>> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up after
>> the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I wasn't there,
>> or
>> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all, I am
>> the
>> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves the
>> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I
>> realize,
>> that, when dogs are running free and playing it is difficult to know 
>> where
>> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is particularly
>> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially if 
>> they
>> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe that
>> having
>> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you, have
>> that
>> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up after
>> your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that others should do
>> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I know 
>> that
>> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even attempt, to
>> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me. Impressions,
>> opinions, observations, suggestions? a
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