[nagdu] Impressions Please?

Mon Jul 27 16:10:02 UTC 2009

Isn't this true of any group, lawyers, teenagers, elderly people, moms
both new and not so new,  doctors, teachers, you name it? 
Each group has memebers that feel entitled. 
What value do we gain by saying " x group has a lot of members with
entitlement complexes? Of course it does, and the reasons are the same
no matter the group. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Joy Relton
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:18 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Marion,

You are correct about the law. You can be fined up to $400 for not
picking up after your animals in areas off of your property. I wonder
how others feel about the whole entitlement attitude versus a right. I
sometimes get the impression that there are those who feel, because they
are blind they are entitled to special exemptions to all sorts of rules.
Having said that, though I must remind myself, that we don't all come
from the same place in terms of independence. Many blind people are told
for years two things.
First, that they are amazing and secondly that they can't do such and
such. 

Thanks for the suggestions folks. I will make the "rules" more clear
next time and remind those individuals that if they come, they have
accepted the rules of the house. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:42 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

Joy,
    Not only do I agree with you, I would have no qualms making picking
up after your dog a contingency for attending any future events. The
person may

not do so, but doing so is our social responsibility and, in many
communities, the law!

Fraternally yours,
Marion

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Impressions Please?

>I recently held a barbeque in my home. Several of the people who 
>attended  were members of the NFB but not personal friends. I was 
>purposed at the  behavior of one of my guests who is a dog guide user 
>and would appreciate  some input as to best handle the situation next 
>time.
>
> The barbeque was open to persons in the Northern Virginia area, 
> basically doesn't matter where the people came from, but, I indicated 
> that dog guides were free to play free in the back yard which is 
> fenced as long as they were
> supervised. In our back yard is a dog relieving area, since I happen
to 
> use
> a dog guide. Immediately adjacent to this area is a lined trash can
which
> was roll of bags for picking up after your dog attached to the handle.
My
> husband, who happens to be sighted escorted one of our guests with her
dog
> to his area. After her dog had relieved himself, my husband proceeded
to
> show the user where the bags were located so that she could pick up
after
> the dog. The user's response was "oh, I don't do that!". I wasn't
there, 
> or
> I probably would have worded the directions differently, after all, I
am 
> the
> main "pooper scooper" of the house, since it is my dog who leaves the
> deposits. I personally feel that this particular guest was rude. I 
> realize,
> that, when dogs are running free and playing it is difficult to know
where
> something might need to be picked up. I believe that it is
particularly
> inappropriate for someone to assume, that someone else, especially if
they
> are sighted, should be the one to "do the dirty work". I believe that 
> having
> a dog guide, a child or any other responsibility means, that you, have

> that
> responsibility and that you need to take the initiative to clean up
after
> your dog, child etc. It is inappropriate to assume that others should
do
> this. Do other user agree with me? Am I totally in left field. I know
that
> people have differing abilities, but being unwilling to even attempt,
to
> clean up after one's dog, seems particularly rude to me. Impressions,
> opinions, observations, suggestions? a
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