[nagdu] Do's and Don't's
Garry and Joy Relton
relton30857 at cox.net
Tue Jun 2 20:56:05 UTC 2009
Well,
Obviously poodles are differently motivated than Labradors. I have to say
though chocolate cookies are often more welcome than money. Not always
though.
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:16 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do's and Don't's
Joy,
Are you sure she's not a poodle in disguise? /lol/ Those long noses of
theirs are perfectly designed for dipping into passing purses, bags, grocery
sacks. Mitzi learned how to open backpacks and used to steal from her dog
park buddies. Who would also steal from her backpack given a chance, but
she kept a beady on the thing at all times! One of my friend's poodles is a
master at dipping into a purse and pulling out the wallet. /lol/ I knew
there was something I left out of Mitzi's training. /grin/
Chocolate chip cookies! Yum!
Tami Smith-Kinney
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Garry and Joy Relton
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do's and Don't's
Tami,
I smiled when I read this. Shortly after I came home with Belle we went to a
conference in which my energetic eighteen month old girl had to sit still
for a few hours at a time. She was very well behaved but she surprised me
and the woman sitting a few feet in front of me when, after about three
hours she suddenly took her paw and snagged the handle on the woman's bag
and pulled it towards her. I of course quietly reprimanded her and the woman
started to laugh. The bag was one of those open beach-type bags and in it
were chocolate chip cookies. Apparently the smell of those tempting cookies
only a few feet from her nose got the best of her. She didn't get any, of
course, but it made the woman and I laugh a little and broke up what was a
slightly long meeting. No one else in the room was even aware of the whole
thing. Belle's a little bit of a devil and has been her whole life but she
makes life fun. As long as it's not dangerous or unmanageable. Who needs a
milk toast pup.
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do's and Don't's
Joy,
Leash-stepping is also my favorite form or tie-down, although it took me
awhile to remember not to move my foot! I also use my ankle as an anchor,
especially in restaurants, to avoid the prospect of creeping. Ms. Sneak
seems to have given up on that one, but she could just be saving up for a
special occasion! /smile/
Tami Smith-Kinney
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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Garry and Joy Relton
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 3:54 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do's and Don't's
Well, the bottom line is, that the rules are really whatever people set for
themselves. However, having said that, I have rules in my house and with my
dogs that I've found work pretty well.
First, my dog has her bed which is next to mine and she sleeps in it. She
has full run of the house during the day but I bring her in and have her lay
on her bed at night. In that way I know when she gets up because I'm a light
sleeper.
Secondly, when I say that my dog guides are allowed everywhere in the
house, that means that they are generally sent out of the kitchen so that
we're not tripping over them when we're working in there. They are not
allowed to beg or sit at the table while we do. Neither are my cats.
Thirdly, my dogs are not allowed to jump up and get things off of counters,
tables and the like and will be severely reprimanded if they try.
Fourthly, my dogs are not allowed on the furniture. Not in my home, and not
in the hotel. My cats do go onto the couch and I don't mind that, but I
don't let them on the counters or tables while we are eating, serving food
or preparing it.
I have found that dogs, like children behave in public like they do in their
homes. If they're allowed to bounce on the couch they will in someone else's
home. I've had a few of those children in my home. That behavior wasn't
welcome. I am fortunate that my dogs and my children have always behaved
themselves very well in people's homes. If they're going to make a mistake,
I'd rather it were in our home where they can be assured that they will be
loved regardless of their mistakes.
I have never kenneled any of my animals in cages during any time in my
homes. If that works for people that's fine. I put the cats in carriers when
I take them to the vets so that they are safe. The only time I've put a dog
in a kennel was when I shipped my retiring dog home to my folks farm. It
broke my heart.
I don't mind cleaning up after animals if they have an accident when they
are ill. It's not fun, but children do the same things and you just deal
with it.
I do put my dogs on tie-down in the office so that I don't have to look for
them if I step out the office door for a second or get busy. I also hook
them to table legs when I go up to sing at a place when we're doing karaoke
because I don't want their ears to be hurt. Otherwise I step on their leash
so that I know where they are at all times.
So, that's my opinion, for what it's worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 5:55 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Do's and Don't's
On May 30, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, what do people think of the various do's and
> don't's that some people use, like dogs on tie downs, dogs on
> furniture, dogs in beds, etc?
I think most of them make good sense, but everyone has to know his own
dog well enough to know when something may be appropriate. My take on
rules in general is that it's as important to know why a rule exists
as it is to have the rule in the first place, so that you then know
when you can (or even should) break a particular rule.
For instance, putting dogs on a tie down or a crate when they're out
of your immediate control is probably a good idea, if for no other
reason than limiting the scope of trouble a dog can get into when
you're not around. When I had Karl, I often didn't leave him on tie
down or in a crate at night, because at night, he never got up or got
into trouble. That is, for the first couple years. You see, I didn't
understand another reason for that particular rule, until the morning
I did. While Karl continued to stay out of trouble, on the morning in
question, I stepped out of the shower, out the bathroom door, and into
a cold, squishy pile of doggie diarrhea. After that, Karl (and later,
Chet) were confined to a crate or tie down at night or when I left
them alone. Not because I thought they'd get into mischief, although
that's always a possibility, but because I didn't want to step into
any more nasty surprises.
Many people let their dogs on their furniture. I do not. Occasionally
I'll hold Chet in my lap in a rocking chair or sofa, but generally
they're mine, and never on his prompting. Some people say their dogs
know the difference between getting on the furniture at home and not
getting on the furniture elsewhere; even that their dogs know they can
sleep in the bed at home but not elsewhere. I'm not convinced that
dogs have that level of discernment. AT least, neither of mine have
had. So, no furniture, and no sleeping in the bed with me. Remember
when you're away from home at a hotel, you're responsible for
extraordinary damage or what not, and it's probably best if your dog
doesn't crash on the hotel beds, if for no other than CYA reasons.
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