[nagdu] family arguments about the dog

Sun Jun 21 18:02:48 UTC 2009

Hi Allison,

You can purchase the video for $15 (that includes postage) from The Seeing
Eye. You would call (973)539-4425 . I believe you can also borrow it for no
cost (except, I believe, return shipping). To borrow the videos, you have to
contact an outside agency.

The page that contains this information is:

http://www.seeingeye.org/AboutUS/default.aspx?M_ID=199&CM_ID=182

Here is what this page says about the video:

Coming Home 
23 minutes, VHS or DVD, English or Spanish. While it is exciting to bring
home a Seeing Eye dog, our graduates often tell the challenges they face
from well-intentioned interference and misperceptions about the role of a
dog guide from family, friends, employers and colleagues. This video
explains what a dog guide can and cannot do, and provides instruction on
"dog guide etiquette," including orientation, meeting new people, feeding,
correction, public interference, travel and more. (It may be purchased for
$15 postpaid from The Seeing Eye.) 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Allison Nastoff
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:29 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

Since Occupaws is an in-home training program, instead of a DVD, 
the dog trainer got to have a face-to-face meeting with my 
parents about how the dogs are trained, and the rules for 
interacting with them.  Unfortunately, my brother was working 
last summer and could not attend this family meeting.  Does 
anyone know if there is a similar Dvd to the one Seeing Eye 
offers that I could maybe get for my brother? Or could I get a 
copy of the Seeing Eye Dvd even though I did not go to Seeing 
Eye? A DVD is a great idea and maybe if my brother heard it 
straight from the experts, he would understand.
Allison and Gilbert

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:25:56 -0700
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>Hi,
>The Seeing Eye sends a DVD to family and friends if you want to.  
It is a
>good DVD and it tells alot of stuff to the family, coworkers, and 
friends
>about how the dog was trained, how the blind person was trained, 
and why the
>dog has to be interacted in different ways from a family pet.

>Do the other schools do this?

>Linda and Landon
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Zena Atchison" <meme57 at centurytel.net
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>> no/ do not give in to your brother
>> that is wrong of your brother to pick on you this way
>> we need the guide dog schools to give us a paper explaining to 
sighted
>> people family members that we are the only ones to feed our 
dogs, and why

>> one reason he should not feed your dog is so that your dog will 
always
>> know not to take food from some one else
>> it is important to keep our dogs in good manners
>> it sounds like your brother wants to tease you your parents need 
to talk
>> to him about respecting your wishes and allowing you to do your 
job
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Allison Nastoff" <anastoff at wi.rr.com
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:43 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>>> Hi List,
>>> I consider myself a pretty easygoing person with regard to 
people
>>> interacting with Gilbert, but one thing that I am absolutely 
adamant
>>> about is making sure that Gilbert is not given any table scraps 
or treats
>>> without my permission because I don't want him to start begging 
the way
>>> the pet dogs I grew up with did, not to mention keeping him 
healthy.
>>> The dog trainer told me that he usually gave Gilbert only one 
treat each
>>> day just before going to bed, a ritual which I have continued.  
I will
>>> make exceptions of course, like when he goes to the vet or the 
groomer,
>>> but generally he only gets one milk bone treat a day, and 
absolutely no
>>> table scraps besides the crumbs that inadvertently fall on the 
floor.  My
>>> parents respect my feelings on this matter.  My friends in the 
college
>>> dorm respect my feelings on this issue.  My brother does not.
>>> My brother is in college and lives in his own apartment.  But 
when he
>>> comes home for dinner occasionally, it is always the same 
argument.
>>> Brother: "Gilbert, do you want some chicken?"
>>> me: "No, Gilbert can not have table scraps."
>>> Brother: COME on, why not? Dogs love chicken!"
>>> Me: Of course they love chicken, but I want to keep Gilbert 
healthy, and
>>> since he is a guide dog, I do not want him to come to expect 
table
>>> scraps, and then he will start begging."
>>> Brother: All right, I am giving him a milk bone then." (He gets 
up, walks
>>> to the pantry, pulls out the container of milk bones and shakes 
it).
>>> "Gilbert, you want a treat?"
>>> Me (standing up and shouting now): "No! Do not give him a 
treat!"
>>> Brother: Come on! What is the harm in letting him have one milk 
bone?"
>>> Me: "There is no harm, but he is my guide dog, so I would like 
to decide
>>> when he gets treats, and I do not want him to have a treat right 
now! He
>>> will get a treat before bed!"
>>> He grudgingly put the treats back and dropped the subject, but I 
am sure
>>> we will have the same argument again next time he comes.
>>> So I was wondering:
>>> 1.  Does anyone have similar arguments with family members over 
their
>>> dogs?
>>> 2.  Is there a better way I could handle this kind of situation? 
and
>>> 3.  Am I being overly anal? My brother does not come that often, 
so
>>> should I just let my brother indulge Gilbert and give him a 
treat?
>>> I am interested in hearing your thoughts on this subject.
>>> Allison and Gilbert

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