[nagdu] family arguments about the dog

Angie Matney angie.matney at gmail.com
Mon Jun 22 16:37:54 UTC 2009 

Hey Allison,

I agree that emailing first is the way to go. I think he might be more
likely to read your email than watch a 23-minute video anyway. Let us know
how it goes.

Angie


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Allison Nastoff
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:36 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

Hi Angie,
Thank you so much for this information.  If the calm e-mail 
approach doesn't work, I will definitely look into getting this 
video.
Allison and Gilbert

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com
>To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:02:48 -0400
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>Hi Allison,

>You can purchase the video for $15 (that includes postage) from 
The Seeing
>Eye.  You would call (973)539-4425 .  I believe you can also 
borrow it for no
>cost (except, I believe, return shipping).  To borrow the videos, 
you have to
>contact an outside agency.

>The page that contains this information is:

>http://www.seeingeye.org/AboutUS/default.aspx?M_ID=199&CM_ID=182

>Here is what this page says about the video:

>Coming Home
>23 minutes, VHS or DVD, English or Spanish.  While it is exciting 
to bring
>home a Seeing Eye dog, our graduates often tell the challenges 
they face
>from well-intentioned interference and misperceptions about the 
role of a
>dog guide from family, friends, employers and colleagues.  This 
video
>explains what a dog guide can and cannot do, and provides 
instruction on
>"dog guide etiquette," including orientation, meeting new people, 
feeding,
>correction, public interference, travel and more.  (It may be 
purchased for
>$15 postpaid from The Seeing Eye.)





>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
On Behalf
>Of Allison Nastoff
>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:29 AM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>Since Occupaws is an in-home training program, instead of a DVD,
>the dog trainer got to have a face-to-face meeting with my
>parents about how the dogs are trained, and the rules for
>interacting with them.  Unfortunately, my brother was working
>last summer and could not attend this family meeting.  Does
>anyone know if there is a similar Dvd to the one Seeing Eye
>offers that I could maybe get for my brother? Or could I get a
>copy of the Seeing Eye Dvd even though I did not go to Seeing
>Eye? A DVD is a great idea and maybe if my brother heard it
>straight from the experts, he would understand.
>Allison and Gilbert

>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net
>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:25:56 -0700
>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog

>>Hi,
>>The Seeing Eye sends a DVD to family and friends if you want to.
>It is a
>>good DVD and it tells alot of stuff to the family, coworkers, and
>friends
>>about how the dog was trained, how the blind person was trained,
>and why the
>>dog has to be interacted in different ways from a family pet.

>>Do the other schools do this?

>>Linda and Landon
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Zena Atchison" <meme57 at centurytel.net
>>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>Users"
>><nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:15 AM
>>Subject: Re: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog


>>> no/ do not give in to your brother
>>> that is wrong of your brother to pick on you this way
>>> we need the guide dog schools to give us a paper explaining to
>sighted
>>> people family members that we are the only ones to feed our
>dogs, and why

>>> one reason he should not feed your dog is so that your dog will
>always
>>> know not to take food from some one else
>>> it is important to keep our dogs in good manners
>>> it sounds like your brother wants to tease you your parents need
>to talk
>>> to him about respecting your wishes and allowing you to do your
>job
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Allison Nastoff" <anastoff at wi.rr.com
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:43 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] family arguments about the dog


>>>> Hi List,
>>>> I consider myself a pretty easygoing person with regard to
>people
>>>> interacting with Gilbert, but one thing that I am absolutely
>adamant
>>>> about is making sure that Gilbert is not given any table scraps
>or treats
>>>> without my permission because I don't want him to start begging
>the way
>>>> the pet dogs I grew up with did, not to mention keeping him
>healthy.
>>>> The dog trainer told me that he usually gave Gilbert only one
>treat each
>>>> day just before going to bed, a ritual which I have continued.
>I will
>>>> make exceptions of course, like when he goes to the vet or the
>groomer,
>>>> but generally he only gets one milk bone treat a day, and
>absolutely no
>>>> table scraps besides the crumbs that inadvertently fall on the
>floor.  My
>>>> parents respect my feelings on this matter.  My friends in the
>college
>>>> dorm respect my feelings on this issue.  My brother does not.
>>>> My brother is in college and lives in his own apartment.  But
>when he
>>>> comes home for dinner occasionally, it is always the same
>argument.
>>>> Brother: "Gilbert, do you want some chicken?"
>>>> me: "No, Gilbert can not have table scraps."
>>>> Brother: COME on, why not? Dogs love chicken!"
>>>> Me: Of course they love chicken, but I want to keep Gilbert
>healthy, and
>>>> since he is a guide dog, I do not want him to come to expect
>table
>>>> scraps, and then he will start begging."
>>>> Brother: All right, I am giving him a milk bone then." (He gets
>up, walks
>>>> to the pantry, pulls out the container of milk bones and shakes
>it).
>>>> "Gilbert, you want a treat?"
>>>> Me (standing up and shouting now): "No! Do not give him a
>treat!"
>>>> Brother: Come on! What is the harm in letting him have one milk
>bone?"
>>>> Me: "There is no harm, but he is my guide dog, so I would like
>to decide
>>>> when he gets treats, and I do not want him to have a treat right
>now! He
>>>> will get a treat before bed!"
>>>> He grudgingly put the treats back and dropped the subject, but I
>am sure
>>>> we will have the same argument again next time he comes.
>>>> So I was wondering:
>>>> 1.  Does anyone have similar arguments with family members over
>their
>>>> dogs?
>>>> 2.  Is there a better way I could handle this kind of situation?
>and
>>>> 3.  Am I being overly anal? My brother does not come that often,
>so
>>>> should I just let my brother indulge Gilbert and give him a
>treat?
>>>> I am interested in hearing your thoughts on this subject.
>>>> Allison and Gilbert

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