[nagdu] CA State Board tries to regulate out-of-state schools
Angie Matney
angie.matney at gmail.com
Sun Mar 22 15:54:18 UTC 2009
Hi buddy,
Yes, EDF's corporate office is in California.
In 1967, the California Supreme Court ruled against Eye Dog Foundation,
which had sought a declaratory judgment that the statute establishing the
State Board was unconstitutional. (The court made a limited exception that
allowed Eye Dog to continue raising funds for 120 days, during which htime
they might be able to secure a licensed trainer.)
I suspect this had something to do with the relocation of the training
facility to Arizona.
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] CA State Board tries to regulate out-of-state schools
Hi Tina,
While the Eye Dog Foundation trained in Arizona, it seems to me that I
saw something that suggests their corporate base was in California. (I
suspect the reason they trained in Arizona had something to do with
the Board, but I have no substantiating evidence, only conjecture.)
On Mar 21, 2009, at 10:50 AM, tina thomas wrote:
> Hi Marion- The Eye dog Foundation actually trains in Arizona,
> however, they
> have an office in California. So I don't know what could be done.
> However
> the CA state board is meeting on March 25 at GDA and I plan to be
> there to
> find out more details about why the board is trying to regulate out
> of state
> schools. Do you have any suggestions on what kinds of steps CAGDU
> should
> take while dealing with this issue?
> Thanks
> Tina
>
>
> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
> instead of
> someone else's."
> - Billy Wilder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 5:58 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] CA State Board tries to regulate out-of-state
> schools
>
> Tina,
> In addition to stopping this sort of action, is CAGDU doing
> anything to
> pressure the Board to take action against the Eye Dog Foundation? I
> have
> spoken with the California AG's office about this, however, since I
> am not a
> constituent, I have very little influence over them.
>
> Fraternally,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tina thomas " <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] CA State Board tries to regulate out-of-state
> schools
>
>
>> Yes Angie CAGDU is in the middle of working to stop the actions of
>> the CA
>> state guide board.
>> Tina
>> CAGDU Secretary
>>
>>
>> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
>> instead
>> of
>> someone else's."
>> - Billy Wilder
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Angie Matney
>> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:22 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] CA State Board tries to regulate out-of-state
>> schools
>>
>> Have people seen this letter from the California State Board of
>> Guide Dogs
>> for the Blind to out-of-state dog-guide programs? The text follows
>> the
>> link.
>>
>> http://www.guidedogboard.ca.gov/forms_pubs/outofstateletter.shtml
>>
>> Letter to out-of-state schools
>> Re: Compliance with California State Law Pertaining to Guide Dogs
>>
>> Dear Out-of-State School:
>>
>> On July 8, 1947, Governor Earl Warren signed into law the Guide Dog
>> Act.
>> This act was established to keep out maverick guide dog schools,
>> protect
>> the
>> visually impaired by setting minimum standards of training, provide
>> oversight for the disposition of donor funds and maintain minimum
>> competency
>> of training for licensed guide dog instructors.
>>
>> The purpose of this letter is twofold. First, the Board wishes to
>> inform
>> all
>> out-of-state schools the statutes requiring compliance with licensure
>> requirements for instruction in the state of California. Second,
>> the Board
>> has a process for compliance - namely the examination for an
>> instructor
>> license. If a candidate for licensure meets the minimum
>> requirements to
>> sit
>> for the examination, they are eligible for licensure status. The
>> examination
>> is given twice per year and involves a one-day Written Exam and a
>> one-day
>> Oral/Practical Exam. Fingerprints are also required before taking the
>> examination.
>>
>> First, California law requires a license for the sale or the giving
>> of a
>> guide dog. Business and Professions Code section 7210 requires that:
>>
>> It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale, give,
>> hire or
>> furnish under any other arrangement, any guide dog or seeing-eye
>> dog or to
>> engage in the business or occupation of training any such dog
>> unless he
>> holds a valid and unimpaired license issued pursuant to the
>> provisions of
>> this chapter.
>>
>> Second, California law requires guide dog instructors to be
>> licensed. An
>> instructor "means a person who instructs blind persons in the use
>> of guide
>> dogs or who engages in the business of training, selling, hiring, or
>> supplying guide dogs for the blind."
>> California law as set forth in 16 CCR section 2284 requires:
>>
>> Anyone instructing a blind person in the use of a guide dog must be
>> licensed
>> by the Board, provided, however, that a school may employ
>> apprentices to
>> assist in such instruction. No apprentice shall act as an instructor
>> except
>> under the direct and immediate supervision of a licensed instructor.
>>
>> Last, B&P Code Section 7213 provides that:
>>
>> Violation of any provision of this chapter is a misdemeanor.
>>
>> The process for obtaining an instructor license begins with an
>> examination.
>> To qualify to take the examination, the individual must have the
>> following
>> qualifications as set forth in Statute (B&P Code Section 7209) --
>> which
>> states the following:
>>
>> [P]erson to be eligible for examination as an instructor must (1)
>> have a
>> knowledge of the special problems of the blind and how to teach
>> them, (2)
>> be
>> able to demonstrate by actual blindfold test under traffic
>> conditions his
>> ability to train guide dogs with whom a blind person would be safe,
>> (3) be
>> suited temperamentally and otherwise to instruct blind persons in
>> the use
>> of
>> guide dogs, and, (4) have had at least three years actual experience,
>> comprising such number of hours as the Board may require, as an
>> instructor,
>> and have handled twenty-two (22) man-dog units; or its equivalent, as
>> determined by the Board, as an apprentice under a licensed
>> instructor or
>> under an instructor in a school satisfactory to the Board.
>>
>> Applicants for the instructor license are required to take both a
>> written
>> and practical/oral examination. Applicants must provide a 15-30
>> minute
>> video
>> demonstrating instruction skills. A panel of subject matter experts
>> will
>> review the video and evaluate the candidate's oral defense of said
>> video.
>> The five steps to licensing are available on the Board's Web site.
>> Applicants may also obtain the application for examination at
>> www.guidedogboard.ca.gov
>>
>> The instructor licenses are good for one year and are renewed each
>> year
>> thereafter for a fee of $100. Along with the fee, an instructor must
>> provide
>> the Board with evidence of continuing education (either 8 hours of
>> course/seminar attendance or 16 hours of attendance at meetings of
>> guide
>> dog
>> users or organizations of the blind).
>>
>> If you have any questions about the laws cited above, please feel
>> free to
>> contact me at (916) 574-7825 . Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Antonette Sorrick
>>
>> ANTONETTE SORRICK
>> Executive Officer, State Board of Guide Dogs for the Blind
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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