[nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Mon May 18 16:57:00 UTC 2009

Hi Craig,

Thanks! The bar is around July 28-29 (need to look at my calendar to
remember the  exact dates). I am already doing Bar/Bri and PMBR. Hopefully I
will be ready when the time comes!

Angie

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Subject: [nagdu] Angie's Graduation /was/ TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

	Congratulations, Angie!  When do you sit for the bar?
Craig

Craig Borne
NHTSA/DOT
(202) 493-0627 
craig.borne at dot.gov

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Tina,

I'm jealous! But I did have to get back because of school. (And on a
positive note, school is over! I graduated yesterday!) Most of my
training
with Yani happened during my break, and I only missed one week of class.
But
I'll bet you had a great training experience!

Angie with Yani

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Hey Angie-  How could I not stay. Pete Jackson one on one for one week.
It
was very cool  

"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
instead of
someone else's."
- Billy Wilder

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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Hey Tina,

In my group, there were two Seeing Eye retrains, a first-time guide-dog
handler, and me. I was very, very tempted to stay the extra week, but I
needed to get back to class. The first-timer in our group had the
instructor
all to himself for that last week, too. He said it was a great
opportunity.

Angie

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>From what I understand, the instructor to student racial has changed 
>over
the years, and students are receiving more individualized instruction.
When
I attended the Seeing Eye back in Feb, there were four of us in my
group.
All but me had received from the Eye prior, So the last week of class, I
had
the instructor to myself. 
Tina   

"Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
instead of
someone else's."
- Billy Wilder

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Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Angie, that's really interesting. I would have actually assume that
training
would be more individualized at GEB since GEB has a smaller class size
and a
smaller student to instructor ratio.

Haben

Angie Matney wrote:
> Hi Tami,
>
> The training at TSE is similar. I obviously can't compare it to GEB, 
> but I will say that what I liked about TSE was that it was very 
> individualized. At my first school, all students went into the city on

> the same day. At TSE, we went in groups. I only went to NYC once, but 
> other students went more often, depending on their needs. Maybe Ann or

> another GEB grad could speak to scheduling at GEB.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Ann Chiappetta
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:33 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
> Hi Tammy;
> I'm a recent GEB grad and I believe I've gotten great urban training. 
> We were out five days a week for three weeks in downtown White Plains,

> NY, a busy city with plenty of obstacles, like rounded sidewalk  ramps

> buses,,complicated crossings,  scaffolding, and people and other 
> dogs.We trained in NYC only one day but it was great as I got 
> train/subway training and felt the safest I've felt in the subway 
> since
losing my sight.
>
> I live in a suburban/urban setting and Verona's city skills are spot 
> on. We don't have much need for country walking so I make sure I take 
> her on side streets just to keep her skills up. But her shorelining 
> skills are good, too.
> Hope that helps.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
>   
>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog 
>> schools, and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.
>> She wanted to know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to 
>> urban training for both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>
>>
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>>
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