[nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison

Margo and Arrow margo.downey at verizon.net
Wed May 20 21:58:11 UTC 2009


Well, I know that TSE, GEB, and GDB have programs where people can be at the 
schools shorter times and then possibly receive some training in their 
communities.

margo and Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison


> I'm curious if schools are moving away from a model that requires
> students to be away from work, school and family for a month.
> Or, is legislation being done to make it easier for people going to
> guide dog class  to get the time they need?
> Honestly, the legislation might be easier to create and implement as
> well as carry out.If such work has not been done on either front, why
> not?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angie Matney
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:00 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
> Hi Tina,
>
> Thanks. I take the bar at the end of July. As far as scheduling went, I
> was very lucky. I asked Seeing Eye for a January class date. Two weeks
> of that class took place over the law school's Holiday break. I actually
> trained in January with both my guides. I hope that I can get my net one
> sometime around April, 2016! (grin)
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of tina thomas
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:44 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
> Congratulations Angie. So when do you take the BAR exam? Just a side
> note, I had to take the quarter off to go and train with Dixie. Being
> that my school is on the quarter system, I could not be gone for a
> month.
> Tina
>
> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
> instead of someone else's."
> - Billy Wilder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angie Matney
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 5:23 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
> Tina,
>
> I'm jealous! But I did have to get back because of school. (And on a
> positive note, school is over! I graduated yesterday!) Most of my
> training with Yani happened during my break, and I only missed one week
> of class. But I'll bet you had a great training experience!
>
> Angie with Yani
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of tina thomas
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 1:18 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
> Hey Angie-  How could I not stay. Pete Jackson one on one for one week.
> It was very cool
>
>
> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
> instead of someone else's."
> - Billy Wilder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angie Matney
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:14 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
> Hey Tina,
>
> In my group, there were two Seeing Eye retrains, a first-time guide-dog
> handler, and me. I was very, very tempted to stay the extra week, but I
> needed to get back to class. The first-timer in our group had the
> instructor all to himself for that last week, too. He said it was a
> great opportunity.
>
> Angie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of tina thomas
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:46 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>>From what I understand, the instructor to student racial has changed
>>over
> the years, and students are receiving more individualized instruction.
> When I attended the Seeing Eye back in Feb, there were four of us in my
> group.
> All but me had received from the Eye prior, So the last week of class, I
> had the instructor to myself.
> Tina
>
>
> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own
> instead of someone else's."
> - Billy Wilder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Haben Girma
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:30 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>
>
> Angie, that's really interesting. I would have actually assume that
> training would be more individualized at GEB since GEB has a smaller
> class size and a smaller student to instructor ratio.
>
> Haben
>
> Angie Matney wrote:
>> Hi Tami,
>>
>> The training at TSE is similar. I obviously can't compare it to GEB,
>> but I will say that what I liked about TSE was that it was very
>> individualized. At my first school, all students went into the city on
>
>> the same day. At TSE, we went in groups. I only went to NYC once, but
>> other students went more often, depending on their needs. Maybe Ann or
>
>> another GEB grad could speak to scheduling at GEB.
>>
>> Angie
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ann Chiappetta
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:33 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>> Hi Tammy;
>> I'm a recent GEB grad and I believe I've gotten great urban training.
>> We were out five days a week for three weeks in downtown White Plains,
>
>> NY, a busy city with plenty of obstacles, like rounded sidewalk  ramps
>
>> buses,,complicated crossings,  scaffolding, and people and other
>> dogs.We trained in NYC only one day but it was great as I got
>> train/subway training and felt the safest I've felt in the subway
>> since
> losing my sight.
>>
>> I live in a suburban/urban setting and Verona's city skills are spot
>> on. We don't have much need for country walking so I make sure I take
>> her on side streets just to keep her skills up. But her shorelining
>> skills are good, too.
>> Hope that helps.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"
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>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:26 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] TSE and Guiding Eyes comparison
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey, all.  A friend was asking me some questions about guide dog
>>> schools, and I had no clue to the answers, so I thought I would ask.
>>> She wanted to know how Guiding Eyes and TSE compare when it comes to
>>> urban training for both dog and handler, since both are near NYC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone been to both schools?  How would you compare the two?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>
>>>
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