[nagdu] college & guide dogs

[Garry and Joy Relton]

Generally, folks lectures are protected as being their personal property. I
would strongly suggested you ask permission to do this. I hasten to clarify
that I don't mean that the lecturers have applied for copyright, but they
may and generally they are considered protected. I would be willing to bet
that law students on this list have had the same experience as was the case
for me in law school. Frankly, I never found recording the whole lecture so
that I could listen to the whole thing again, to be very efficient use of my
time. I can take pretty fast notes with a slate and stylus or laptop so I
don't have a problem with not recording a lecture. Just my feelings. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Nicole B. Torcolini
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 6:14 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] college & guide dogs


Just out of curiosity, may I know the source from which you learned that you

do not have to have permission to record lectures?  Usually it is not a 
problem for me, but there are cases in which the professor does not allow it

for certain reasons.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherrill O'Brien" <sherrill.obrien at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] college & guide dogs


Hi Katrin,

Please remember that no one can tell you that you can't bring your dog with
you to campus, as it is the law.  People have been using guide dogs on
college campuses for decades, so it's nothing you should be concerned about,
nor should you ask permission, as it is your right to have your dog with
you.  You also do not have to get permission to record college lectures.

It's a very good idea to go to campus in advance, when it's not so crowded
and when you aren't under pressure to find your next class.  I worked my
first dog on a very large campus, the University of Illinois, and we always
did what you've mentioned here, that is, find the building and specific room
in advance.  i'm sure you and James will be fine.

Sherrill O'Brien


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Katrin Andberg
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 9:23 AM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] college & guide dogs


Thank you all for the advice.  I will be commuting to campus from my home,
about a 30min commute via the train then subway then bus, so no need to
worry about on-campus housing.  James and I have done routes like that
before so once I learn the train schedule and where the subway and bus stops
are I'm not too concerned about that being an issue.  What I am more
concerned about is learning routes on such a large campus (I'll be going to
UMass Boston).  But James is rather good at learning to guide me to specific
places so I think if we go early enough before school starts and practice,
practice, practice the routes, we should be ok.  Thanks for the idea on
looking into a GPS whomever that was.  That might be a good thing for me as
when I get really, really lost I tend to panic and everything starts to look
the same and my ability to remember left and right goes out the window, even
with a map and I'm generally pretty good with maps as long as I study them
well beforehand.



I am planning to go back to school for engineering.  That's what I
originally went for 7 years ago and what I'm still interested in.  I'm
looking into the college's disability office to see what I have to do to be
allowed to do things like tape record lectures and things like that and
James of course will go with me when I stop in there so I'm going to assume
they'll know about him that way and I guess if they have any issues they'll
bring it up then, but I hope it will be as you folks say and a non issue.



Thanks again



Katrin & James



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