[nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

Wed Oct 28 16:08:19 UTC 2009

i am not sure. Are you saying that the separation of church and state
precludes all houses of worship from adhereing to the ada?

Albert J. Rizzi
CEO/Founder
My Blind Spot, Inc.
90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
New York, New York  10004
www.myblindspot.org
PH: 917-553-0347
Fax: 212-858-5759
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
doing it."

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion & Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

Albert,
    Did my previous message answer your question?

Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness

> Hy would a church not be required to follow the ada
>
> Albert J. Rizzi
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:47 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>
> Since churches don't need to follow the ADA, could they allow a pet and
> disallow a service animal?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:29 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>
> Dar,
>    I completely understand the frustration felt by those who take
> advantage
> of the legal provisions in place to protect our civil rights by taking
> pets
> into public places. Unfortunately, too many are not aware of the
> difference
> between a service animal, comfort/assistance animals, and pets! If the
> Deacon were to have been better informed, he might have asked "What
> service
> does the animal perform?" If she were to have said, "It comforts me!"
> and he
> was well-informed he might have been able to tell her it was not a
> service
> animal, as comfort is not a trained task, but an innate capacity.
> Furthermore, churches are not a public accommodation under the ADA and
> are
> not required to modify their policies, practices, and procedures for a
> person who is disabled. In other words, a church does not need to follow
> the
> ADA and allow service animals on their properties.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Requirement of a Harness
>
>
>> This was a month or so ago,
>> a lady came to mass with her pet.
>> The Deacon asked if she had a service dog, where she said yes.
>> I knew from the start yes was no.
>> I asked her if she trained her dog where she said yes she did.
>> That the dog was 19 years old.
>> Had the dog from a pup.
>> I asked her what the dog did for her, where she said kept her calm.
>> We got threw mass, when my dog wanted to greet, which I don't allow I
>> corrected.
>> Even outside going down the stairs, the lady realized I wasn't going
> to
>> let my dog greet, so she never came back again.
>> My dog is such a rat around other dogs.
>> Not so much with guides when he sees they are being controled.
>> he does talk to me about this problem though.
>> I felt angry that this lady took advantage of the Deacon.
>> I never said a word to him about this matter.
>> If the lady kept coming and the dogs were causing problems then I
> would
>> have said more.
>> There may come a day when I need to train my own dog.
>> If the school I went to couldn't pay for the plane ticket.
>> Where I would make sure I followed all the steps needed.
>> I am not against home training.
>> Just don't care for folks taking advantage.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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>> dmgina23
>> every saint has a past
>> every sinner has a future
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