[nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
Tamara Smith-Kinney
tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Wed Sep 16 21:45:17 UTC 2009
Gary,
Cool! My Mitzi has kin in the breeding program at GDD, as well as some
working cousins or whatever. I've heard of other poodles through them and
know of breeders who donate to them. I don't know any of their poodle grads
well, but I've gotten a good impression from brief interactions and hearing
what the grads say about their dogs.
Tami Smith-Kinney
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of GARY STEEVES
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
Hello Tamara:
Thanks for the nice comments. Yes, I am a person who likes to invision how
things are going to go to try and make big changes less dramatic. Of course,
nothing is ever totally like I think it will be but the preplanning usually
helps deal with these moments as well.
Yes, I am still getting a poodle. I think I am now leaning more towards a
poodle rather than a lab-poodle cross. I have applied at guide dogs of the
desert and am just sending inthe last bits and pieces to guide dog
foundation. I also just learned that canine vision canada uses poodles as
well and will have some ready for placing as early as next winter so I
think I will apply to them too.
The one downside with guide dogs of the desert is that apparently their
finances are still a bit low meaning that the student has to pay for the
expense of getting to them and home again. I speculate that raising this
money shouldn't be too hard but it is the one negative about that school.
The thing I like about them though is that they are in the same time zone as
I am. I keep hearing about how it is importatn to keep the dogs routine from
school days when you return home. This will be pretty hard considerint two
of the schools I am applying to are in the eastern time zone, 3 hours ahead
of me.
>From talking with people and reading comments from people like you with a
poodle, they seem like pretty neat dogs. I live in an apartment so I also
think a poodle will be more suited to that sort of space. More on the
delicate side than the romping into a room, with destruction at hand which
often follow labs. <chuckle>
So I will keep asking questions, reading and learning and hope that I will
be ready when the big day comes.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Gary,
>
> Sounds to me like you've both got it! I'm sure your new
> dog won't mind
> having an extra dose of attention and adoration at all. /grin/
>
> Are you still looking for poodle or poodle cross? I hear
> the wait is still
> long, but you will find yourself with a whole lot of non-shedding,
> hypoallergenic energy and fun. Er... And a good
> worker, too, of course.
> /grin/ It's really great that you worked things out a home
> before bringing
> the dog in. Poodles do tend to be sensitive to mood and
> atmosphere, so
> getting any cause for tension at home out of the way is
> important. I really
> lucked out to find a roommate who is so even-tempered, low
> drama, likes
> peace and quiet around the house as much as I do. A couple
> of weeks ago,
> our attempt to help an old friend of his get back on his feet
> resulted in
> some heavy, albeit brief, tension, and Mitzi had a total
> meltdown. She
> collapsed on her bed and didn't move until I noticed she was
> practicallycatatonic. Yikes! I had to snuggle her
> for about an hour, then I called a
> friend that Mitzi loves whom I knew would be awake and put her
> on speaker
> while we talked and laughed until Mitzi perked up and begin
> obnoxiouslydemanding that I play ball with her.
> /lol/ Podle cured! Needless to say,
> the person who created all the fuss and bother has been
> unfriended. Sad,
> but necessary.
>
> Anyway, I commend your and your girlfriend's ability to work
> things out and
> respect each other's wishes and happiness. Best of luck!
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> Of GARY STEEVES
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:43 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
>
> Hello Everyone:
>
> This topic comes at a good time for me. I am applying for a
> guide dog as we
> speak. My girlfriend has expressed concerns about how things
> will work with
> the new guide dog. She is very much a dog person and doesn't
> want to be left
> out of the loop when it comes to enjoying a dog in the
> family.
>
> My understanding is that when the dog is not in harness it is a
> pet dog. As
> long as my girlfriend reinforces what I am doing with
> regards to commands
> and rules everything should be fine (taking into consideration
> what people
> have said previously about the dogs personality itself). Is this
> correct? I
> want us to be enjoy having a dog in the family as much as I want
> me to
> benefit from it's special skills.
>
> Thanks
> Gary
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:57 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
> > Chastity,
> >
> > Oh, I totally agree with you. I think it is much, much
> > better for the dog
> > to play and socialize in its off duty time. And that a
> > happier, more
> > mentally healthy dog witll make a better guide. I was
> > pretty picky about
> > how people played with Mitzi whenshe was young, and now I just
> expect> general civility -- no teasing or undo rough
> housing. But
> > I'm always
> > thrilled when she's playing with people. I have yet to
> see
> > that it affects
> > her bond with me in the slightest.
> >
> > Tami Smith-Kinney
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
> bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > On Behalf
> > Of Chasity Jackson
> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:08 PM
> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > After having a discussion with a friend this afternoon, who is
> a
> > first time
> > guide dog owner, I wanted to ask this question, just for
> > curiosity's sake.
> >
> > How many of you believe that if you let your dog bond with
> > family and
> > friends, that means that you aren't a good guide dog user and
> > owner? This
> > person told me that he does not let his family interact with
> his
> > dog for
> > more than a few seconds. Now I totally respect everyone's
> right
> > to be
> > different, and I respect his right to do that, but then he
> went
> > so far as to
> > say that I don't act like I know how to use a guide dog
> because
> > I said that
> > I see nothing wrong with family and friends playing with your
> > dog when
> > they're at your house. Now, I'm not talking about when the dog
> > is in
> > harness, or if you're out running errands, etc. Of course, I
> am
> > a stickler
> > for that, when your dog is working, he or she is working and
> > should not be
> > bothered. I am talking about if your buddy comes over on
> Sunday
> > afternoon to
> > watch football, and wants to sit on the floor and bond with
> your
> > dog, or
> > maybe throw a ball, etc. I personally don't see anything wrong
> > with that
> > after the bonding stages are over, and as long as your dog
> isn't
> > a brand new
> > dog that is still trying to bond with you. Not that anyone's
> > responses will
> > change my mind, but I was just curious to see how many people
> > agree with me
> > and how many agree with him. Just a topic of discussion here
> on
> > the list.
> >
> > Chasity
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