[nagdu] Gary's future dog

Angie Matney angie.matney at gmail.com
Thu Sep 17 16:12:37 UTC 2009 

Tracy makes some good points .I'm not at all suggesting you not try to get a
poodle, but the labs used for guidework do just fine in apartments--even in
college dorm rooms. 

Angie with Yani and retired Glaze



-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 8:40 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] Gary's future dog

Hi Gary.
I live in New Jersey, and until recently got my dogs in California.  None
of them seemed to have a big problem with the time difference when we got
home.  Dogs are almost always ready to eat something, whenever it's
presented to them.
For that matter, I changed Ben's schedule from the one we had in class to
one that suited my routine better.  Dogs are very adaptable.

And labs are not a hurricane waiting to happen! <smile>

Good luck with your applications.
Tracy

> Hello Tamara:
>
> Thanks for the nice comments. Yes, I am a person who likes to  invision
> how things are going to go to try and make big changes less dramatic. Of
> course, nothing is ever totally like I think it will be but the
> preplanning usually helps deal with these moments as well.
>
> Yes, I am still getting a poodle. I think I am now leaning more towards a
> poodle rather than a lab-poodle cross. I have applied at guide dogs of the
> desert and am just sending inthe last bits and pieces to guide dog
> foundation. I also just learned that canine vision canada uses poodles as
> well and will have some  ready for placing as early as next winter so I
> think I will apply to them too.
>
> The one downside with guide dogs of the desert is that apparently their
> finances are still a bit low meaning that the student has to pay for the
> expense of getting to them and home again. I  speculate that raising this
> money shouldn't be too hard but it is the one negative about that school.
> The thing I like about them though is that they are in the same time zone
> as I am. I keep hearing about how it is importatn to keep the dogs routine
> from school days when you return home. This will be pretty hard
> considerint two of the schools I am applying to are in the eastern time
> zone, 3 hours ahead of me.
>
>>From talking with people and reading comments from people like you with a
>> poodle, they seem like pretty neat dogs. I live in an apartment so I also
>> think a poodle will be more suited to that sort of space. More on the
>> delicate side than the romping into a room, with destruction at hand
>> which often follow labs. <chuckle>
>
> So I will keep asking questions, reading and learning and hope that I will
> be ready when the big day comes.
>
> Gary
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Sounds to me like you've both got it!  I'm sure your new
>> dog won't mind
>> having an extra dose of attention and adoration at all. /grin/
>>
>> Are you still looking for poodle or poodle cross?  I hear
>> the wait is still
>> long, but you will find yourself with a whole lot of non-shedding,
>> hypoallergenic energy and fun.  Er...  And a good
>> worker, too, of course.
>> /grin/  It's really great that you worked things out a home
>> before bringing
>> the dog in.  Poodles do tend to be sensitive to mood and
>> atmosphere, so
>> getting any cause for tension at home out of the way is
>> important.  I really
>> lucked out to find a roommate who is so even-tempered, low
>> drama, likes
>> peace and quiet around the house as much as I do.  A couple
>> of weeks ago,
>> our attempt to help an old friend of his get back on his feet
>> resulted in
>> some heavy, albeit brief, tension, and Mitzi had a total
>> meltdown.  She
>> collapsed on her bed and didn't move until I noticed she was
>> practicallycatatonic.  Yikes!  I had to snuggle her
>> for about an hour, then I called a
>> friend that Mitzi loves whom I knew would be awake and put her
>> on speaker
>> while we talked and laughed until Mitzi perked up and begin
>> obnoxiouslydemanding that I play ball with her.
>> /lol/  Podle cured!  Needless to say,
>> the person who created all the fuss and bother has been
>> unfriended.  Sad,
>> but necessary.
>>
>> Anyway, I commend your and your girlfriend's ability to work
>> things out and
>> respect each other's wishes and happiness.  Best of luck!
>>
>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf
>> Of GARY STEEVES
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:43 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
>>
>> Hello Everyone:
>>
>> This topic comes at a good time for me. I am applying for a
>> guide dog as we
>> speak. My girlfriend has expressed concerns about how things
>> will work with
>> the new guide dog. She is very much a dog person and doesn't
>> want to be left
>> out of the loop when it comes to enjoying a dog in the
>> family.
>>
>> My understanding is that when the dog is not in harness it is a
>> pet dog. As
>> long as my girlfriend reinforces  what I am doing with
>> regards to commands
>> and rules everything should be fine (taking into consideration
>> what people
>> have said previously about the dogs personality itself). Is this
>> correct? I
>> want us to be enjoy having a dog in the family as much as I want
>> me to
>> benefit from it's special skills.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tamara Smith-Kinney <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:57 am
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>
>> > Chastity,
>> >
>> > Oh, I totally agree with you.  I think it is much, much
>> > better for the dog
>> > to play and socialize in its off duty time.  And that a
>> > happier, more
>> > mentally healthy dog witll make a better guide.  I was
>> > pretty picky about
>> > how people played with Mitzi whenshe was young, and now I just
>> expect> general civility -- no teasing or undo rough
>> housing.  But
>> > I'm always
>> > thrilled when she's playing with people.  I have yet to
>> see
>> > that it affects
>> > her bond with me in the slightest.
>> >
>> > Tami Smith-Kinney
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-
>> bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> > On Behalf
>> > Of Chasity Jackson
>> > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:08 PM
>> > To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: [nagdu] a question stemming from a hot debate
>> >
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > After having a discussion with a friend this afternoon, who is
>> a
>> > first time
>> > guide dog owner, I wanted to ask this question, just for
>> > curiosity's sake.
>> >
>> > How many of you believe that if you let your dog bond with
>> > family and
>> > friends, that means that you aren't a good guide dog user and
>> > owner? This
>> > person told me that he does not let his family interact with
>> his
>> > dog for
>> > more than a few seconds. Now I totally respect everyone's
>> right
>> > to be
>> > different, and I respect his right to do that, but then he
>> went
>> > so far as to
>> > say that I don't act like I know how to use a guide dog
>> because
>> > I said that
>> > I see nothing wrong with family and friends playing with your
>> > dog when
>> > they're at your house. Now, I'm not talking about when the dog
>> > is in
>> > harness, or if you're out running errands, etc. Of course, I
>> am
>> > a stickler
>> > for that, when your dog is working, he or she is working and
>> > should not be
>> > bothered. I am talking about if your buddy comes over on
>> Sunday
>> > afternoon to
>> > watch football, and wants to sit on the floor and bond with
>> your
>> > dog, or
>> > maybe throw a ball, etc. I personally don't see anything wrong
>> > with that
>> > after the bonding stages are over, and as long as your dog
>> isn't
>> > a brand new
>> > dog that is still trying to bond with you. Not that anyone's
>> > responses will
>> > change my mind, but I was just curious to see how many people
>> > agree with me
>> > and how many agree with him. Just a topic of discussion here
>> on
>> > the list.
>> >
>> > Chasity
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