[nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

Thu Apr 1 16:49:49 UTC 2010

i wish!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

> Excellent. maybe the united states will follow your lead.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Gary
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:46 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> Hello albert:
>
> In Canada there has been work done by some consumer groups for the blind 
> to
> standardize the audible  signals.   cukkoo to signify north south 
> crossings
> and beep beep to signify east west crossings. The concept being, as you 
> say,
> for travelers to have consistency across our country.
>
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Albert J Rizzi
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:34 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> I too was a little confused. It seems like we discussed here, that the 
> voice
> would sound off when the button was pushed. It is an option they added to
> the flashing lights to alert drivers to the pedestrian crosswalk. I am not
> sure if they included the blind community in determining effectiveness of
> this particular signage. I found the voice to be odd. There really should 
> be
> a consistent design here so when we as pedestrians travel from one state 
> or
> city to another we are not taken aback when we here a voice over a chirp 
> or
> a fog horn for that matter. wouldn't that just be a hoot. Hearing a fog 
> horn
> while crossing a street. LOL
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:14 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> Albert, is the Boulder thing an audible signal, or just a reminder to
> pedestrians to use caution when crossing?  It's a bit unclear.  It seems
> to say that they are warned to use caution crossing when they push the
> walk button, which is not an APS.
> Tracy
>
>> I did some research too. In boulder, colorado  the costs are about 1k 
>> more
>> then the lights as they are now used. See below. Prices must have come
>> down
>> a bit.
>> Mr. Rizzi, we don't handle that sort of thing, but I Googled your query
>> and
>> came up with a town in Boulder, CO that had just installed what you're
>> talking about. It was much less expensive - go to:
>>
>>
> http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=744
>> 0&Itemid=1206
>>
>> And here I've pasted the text, in case the link doesn't work for you:
>>
>>  Audible Crosswalk Sign
>>
>> The City of Boulder has installed an audible warning message at the
>> crosswalkpedestrian crossing on Baseline Road, just east of Broadway. 
>> This
>> crosswalk is the first in the city to combine the flashing pedestrian
>> crossing signs with an audible message. When pedestrians push the
>> crosswalk
>> button, the audible message says, "Use caution when crossing." (mp3 
>> Listen
>> to the actual message) The city is testing the enhancement at one 
>> location
>> and will evaluate the usefulness of the audible warning buttons before
>> deciding whether to install buttons at addtional locations.
>>
>> The addition of the audible warning message is the result of a review of
>> the
>> existing 14 flashing pedestrian crossings in the City of Boulder to
>> identify
>> ways to improve safety and awareness for drivers and pedestrians at these
>> crossing treatments.
>>
>> The audible message device, two audible warning buttons and the 
>> associated
>> additional control circut adds about $1,000 ot the cost of a flashing
>> pedestrian crossing sign.
>>
>> For more information on the new audible warning message, contact Joe
>> Paulson
>> at (303) 441-3266.
>>
>> Georgia Lambert, MTC Public Information/Outreach Technician
>> 101 8th Street, Oakland, CA  94607
>> 510-817-5787
>>
>>
>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> CEO/Founder
>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> New York, New York  10004
>> www.myblindspot.org
>> PH: 917-553-0347
>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who 
>> is
>> doing it."
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Steve Johnson
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:03 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>>
>> Just as a bit of clarification on the APS cost, I contacted our County's
>> Transportation Planner who I work with quite closely.  Here is her
>> response:
>> Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> I got some feedback on the cost of the audible pedestrian crossing
>> signals.
>> The cost highly depends on whether or not electrical is already 
>> available.
>> For one signal installed in an area that already has the conduits is
>> around
>> $75,000. It's twice that much if you need to run electrical, but of 
>> course
>> that depends on the distance you need to run to connect to the nearest
>> conduit.
>>
>>
>>
>> So it seems to me that the near-worst case scenario is $1,200,000 for 8
>> signals and electrical-not the 73M you were quoted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jackie Eastwood
>>
>> Transportation  Planner
>>
>> La Crosse Area Planning Committee
>>
>> 400 4th St N, Room 2300
>>
>> La Crosse, WI  54601
>>
>> PH: 608.785.6141
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Albert J Rizzi
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:46 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>>
>> Interesting to hear that the levels of volume are adjustable. Would be
>> great
>> in those places where some would think it might disturb the peace and
>> tranquility  of the businesses or passers by in a thread we talked on.
>>
>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> CEO/Founder
>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> New York, New York  10004
>> www.myblindspot.org
>> PH: 917-553-0347
>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who 
>> is
>> doing it."
>>
>>
>> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:13 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>>
>> The audible signal near me is not a chirp, thank Goodness.  My light is
>> one
>> where the pedestrian has to push a button to activate the walk sign.
>> When the walk signal starts, a voice says "walk sign is on for all
>> crossings".  The voice repeats as long as the walk sign is on, about 2 
>> and
>> a
>> half times.  I think when the voice stops, the walk sign is flashing to
>> show
>> you don't have a lot of time left to cross.
>> I think, if it were a 4-way stop, the voice would indicate which street
>> had
>> the walk sign.
>> To me, it's much clearer than the chirp, and less piercing.  We had to 
>> get
>> the traffic engineers back to tone it down a bit, since they'd put it in
>> at
>> full blast and it was too loud.  Now they turned it down a lot, and it's
>> good.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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