[nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a dog

cheryl echevarria cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 14 15:51:46 UTC 2010


People that work on the plane, do not normally know where that will be, 
sometimes it is there first time at that airport you are better off when 
checking in that you ask the counter person or security if they know that 
answer.

Cheryl Echevarria
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a dog


> Albert,
>     It was very nice of them to make an "exception" for me, wasn't it? As
> for relief areas at airports, I think that the staff of a particular 
> airport
> would be a better source of this information than the staff of an airline
> that is probably not anywhere near the airport on which you need
> information. JMHO!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a 
> dog
>
>
> > or for that matter the ignorance of the general public. She and the 
> > pilot
> > made an exception? That is rich. I agree with you on the point that we 
> > do
> > not need to advise any one of how we travel and move through this life 
> > as
> > guide handlers. but, I am wondering, if we did advise in advance of our
> > travel, would that open a dialogue of where break areas are in the
> > airports
> > we may be flying in and out of getting sometimes greatly needed advance
> > notice to quickly get our little buddy's to a place to get busy? Just a
> > thought I had, given some of the threads on break areas in airports and
> > trying to find them.
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of Marion Gwizdala
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:06 PM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a
> > dog
> >
> > Jenine,
> >    Perhaps the "better way" to handle this is to not notify the airlines
> > we
> >
> > will be traveling with a guide dog or other service animal and require
> > them
> > to follow the law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of
> > disability!
> > I once traveled from Tampa to St.Louis, MO to do an educational program 
> > on
> > the ADA to attorneys and police officers on behalf of the Illinois
> > Attorney
> > General's Office and had a flight attendant "advise" me that I was
> > required
> > to sit in a bulkhead seat. When I "advised" her that I would not sit
> > there,
> > she told me it was the law. I again "advised" her as to where I was 
> > going,
> > what I would be doing there, and that I had a much better understanding 
> > of
> > the Air Carrier Access Act than she. I further "advised" her that, if 
> > she
> > insisted on violating my civil rights by forcing me to accept an
> > accommodation I chose to refuse, I would file a Federal law suit against
> > the
> >
> > airlines and her. After consulting with the pilot, she "advised" me that
> > they were going to make an exception for me! I wonder how many others 
> > she
> > intimidated into submission, violating their civil rights! It's too bad 
> > we
> > are "advised" to compromise our civil rights because of the ignorance 
> > and
> > custodialism of the airline industry!
> >
> > Fraternally yours,
> > Marion Gwizdala
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jenine Stanley" <jeninems at wowway.com>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a
> > dog
> >
> >
> >> Cheryl,
> >>
> >> The advice given on the call was general. It was also meant to answer 
> >> the
> >> issue of international travel.
> >>
> >> Technically, on flights within the continental US, if you do not plan 
> >> to
> >> ask
> >> for any accommodations, such as the bulkhead seat, for your service
> >> animal,
> >> then it's your choice as to whether to notify the airline that you will
> >> be
> >> traveling with your dog.
> >>
> >> There are probably as many opinions about this as there are handlers. 
> >> If
> >> you
> >> just don't want the potential conflict or if you want to handle things 
> >> at
> >> the start of your travel planning instead of at the jetway doors, then
> >> you
> >> might choose to notify the airline that you have a service animal.
> >>
> >> There is one instance in which you are required to notify the airline.
> >> That's if you have what is classified as a psychiatric service animal
> >> whose
> >> role is to assist you with tasks related to a mental health condition.
> >> Taking this type of dog, who often has fewer tasks in its training than 
> >> a
> >> standard guide or service dog, does require prior notice and
> >> documentation
> >> provided to the airline. This category does not affect most of us with
> >> guide
> >> dogs though.
> >>
> >> Remember that generally when we give advice to people about what we as
> >> the
> >> school think is correct, we do so based on the majority of people's
> >> comfort
> >> levels. So though no, you technically are not required to notify 
> >> airlines
> >> about your dog on domestic flights within the continental US, it
> >> certainly
> >> can lower stress levels for many people to do so.
> >>
> >> I fly a lot and always notify airlines that I am traveling with my dog. 
> >> I
> >> do
> >> it for a rather sideways reason though. I want to make sure the flight
> >> crew
> >> knows that no, there is no federal law that requires me to sit in the
> >> bulkhead seats if I choose not to do so.
> >>
> >> Hope that clears things up.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jenine Stanley
> >> jeninems at wowway.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of cheryl echevarria
> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:26 PM
> >> To: nagdu
> >> Subject: [nagdu] why do we have to let airlines know that you have a 
> >> dog
> >>
> >> On GDF conference call they are saying that we need to let airlines 
> >> know
> >> we
> >> have guide dogs with us.
> >>
> >> Why, that is not so.
> >>
> >> Cheryl Echevarria
> >> Independent Travel Consultant
> >> C10-10646
> >>
> >> http://Echevarriatravel.com
> >> 1-866-580-5574
> >>
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