[nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people

Tue Apr 20 15:53:53 UTC 2010

oh yes lack of education, especially, example:  I had to go to the pharmacy 
yesterday and I live in a very Hispanic neighborhood, when I went to sit and 
wait for my meds, a woman yelled and screamed and picked up her child, and 
said in spanish bad dog, I said in spanish, ciega which mean blind of it it's 
a man I say Ciego, and I say Perro Trabajan so sorry for incorrectly 
spelling if someone on here is spanish.

And then thank god another lady with her daughter also told the lady that I 
was blind and that Maxx is a guide dog.

You see in certain countries and also here, there are loose dogs, a lot of 
people don't watch out for there dogs.  And most of the dogs in those 
countries are bad dogs.  That is what I found out, so a lot of the people 
coming here are uneducated but there children are.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people

> I'm not sure if  religion has anything to do with it, but I'm sure that 
> lack
> of education *does* play a big role in individual's attitudes towards 
> guide
> dogs. After all, we have many individuals in the United States who act the
> same way and who are not accustomed to being around individuals with
> disabilities. I think it all stems back to needing to educate  people. 
> I'm
> a high school Spanish teacher and when I was in college did a lot of
> research on Hispanic culture.  I remember talking to my professor/friend
> from Peru. She said that although Peru had a lot of services for the 
> blind,
> she was surprised to see someone as competent/poised as I was. She had to
> learn to accept that blind people could do everything sighted people do. 
> She
> was nervous about the dog  in the beginning, but after she got to know her 
> a
> bit, she was able, when I allowed her, to pet my dog and  be social with
> her.
> Take care and sorry for the long post.
> Hope and Beignet
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
>
> > Yes, I agree that religion has something to do with it, along with
> > ignorance and poverty.  I do live in a rural area.  When I have gone
> > into Guadalajara, I have met a lot of people who think using a guide
> > dog is pretty neet stuff.  At present, there are no guide dog schools
> > here.  about 15 years ago, someone tried to start a guide dog school
> > but couldn't get enough support.  Big shock.
> >
> > On 4/19/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
> >> Then to they are a devoutly catholic community, and the catholic faith
> >> does
> >> not always place the blind at the top of the heap. Culture and religion
> >> work
> >> against us here.
> >>
> >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> >> CEO/Founder
> >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
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> >> New York, New York  10004
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> >> Fax: 212-858-5759
> >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
> >> is
> >> doing it."
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Hope Paulos
> >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:00 PM
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
> >>
> >> Just to put my 2 cents in here, this seems to be the belief for all
> >> hispanic
> >>
> >> culture. Had the same views of me and my guide dog from my friends in
> >> Peru
> >> and Chile. Think it's that there aren't very many blind peole with 
> >> guide
> >> dogs in these parts of the world.
> >> Hope and Beignet
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:27 PM
> >> Subject: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
> >>
> >>
> >>> Rebecca,
> >>>
> >>> I believe that there is quite a difference in attitudes, blind Mexican
> >>> or blind gringo.  From what I have experienced, Mexicans are very nice
> >>> and helpful  to me and amazed that I am capable of doing anything.
> >>> The only blind Mexicans that I have run into, literally, have been
> >>> beggers.
> >>>
> >>> On 4/19/10, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Linda.
> >>>> If I can ask, why did you bring your dog to Mexico in 1992, and why 
> >>>> did
> >>>> you not bring a cane?
> >>>> Am not trying to judge, just understand even if it is "I wasn't
> >>>> thinking".
> >>>> To Cheryll, how are attitudes towards blind people in Mexico? Any
> >>>> difference in attitude between blind men and blind women?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:37 PM
> >>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Cheryl O,
> >>>> Welcome to the list!
> >>>>
> >>>> I see you live in Mexico.  Would you please tell us about life in
> >>>> Mexico
> >>>>
> >>>> with a guide dog?
> >>>>
> >>>> I am Lyn and I'm working with my eighth dog - foourth one from Seeing
> >>>> Eye.
> >>>> My dog is Landon, a red Golden/Lab cross and I got him in 2007.
> >>>>
> >>>> We work as pet assisted therapists at a military hospital and in two
> >>>> programs with our local Humane Society.  Landon LOVES this work! LOL
> >>>>
> >>>> I live in San Diego so we are very near Tijuana, BC, Mexico. I 
> >>>> haven't
> >>>> visited there since 1992 and don't feel like going there again. 
> >>>> there
> >>>> is a
> >>>> warning from the US State Dept. about traveling to Mexico because of
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>> drug cartels "activity" along the border towns.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I brought my guide dog there, the restaurants didn't want me to
> >>>> bring
> >>>> my dog inside.  After my explanations of the dog being my guide, they
> >>>> compromised by having me sit by the door!  Also, I had someone come 
> >>>> up
> >>>> to me
> >>>> to ask if I'd sell him my dog! I said no and told him in Spanish that
> >>>> the
> >>>> dog was my eyes - a perro de guia. He then left.  After that, I 
> >>>> thought
> >>>> about what if the guy reacted differently and grabbed my dog from me
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>> there I would be, in a foreign contry, without a mobility aid! I 
> >>>> didn't
> >>>> even
> >>>> have a white cane with me.  Along the border towns, they steal dogs 
> >>>> to
> >>>> sell
> >>>> to labs even though reputable labs will NEVER take a microchipped or
> >>>> tatooed
> >>>> dog as it is very illegal.
> >>>>
> >>>> The other thing is that Mexico has no laws regarding having dogs
> >>>> vaccinated
> >>>> against Rabies or other diseases. Do you know if any of this has
> >>>> changed?
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, welcome and look forward to hearing from you about life in
> >>>> Mexico!
> >>>>
> >>>> Lyn and Landon
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:05 PM
> >>>> Subject: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the welcome Marsha.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your Q is certainly not too personal.  I live in a very small town 
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> central Mexico.  My husband and I retired here about 4 years ago.
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> > Cheryl in Mexico
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