[nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people

Wed Apr 21 00:56:38 UTC 2010

Wow!!!

On 4/20/10, Diana Engle <lapinguina at comcast.net> wrote:
> My post was to point out that people are individuals, even though the
> individuals belong to groups that may include a particular ethnic group,
> religion, disability status or whatever. We cannot say that everyone in a
> particular group holds the same beliefs, attitudes, behaviors, etc.
>
> The way to talk about cultures (and, BTW, there is not a single Hispanic
> culture), ethnic groups, religions, disability groups, socioeconomic levels,
> etc. *without* making generalizations, is by speaking of our particular
> experiences with *individuals*.
>
> Regarding attitudes toward my guide dog and blindness, I have had both
> positive and negative experiences with people who are Chinese, Muslim, white
> Americans, black Americans, rich, poor, Mexican, Catholic, etc. My
> experiences are with individuals and I would not extend those experiences
> into generalizations about the groups those individuals belong to.
>
> I have seen on lists before people frustrated because a sighted person has
> expressed some silly or demeaning generalization about people who are blind.
> If we don't like to be the subject of others' generalizations, then we
> should not create generalizations of others.
>
> dE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:25 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
> Can you add anything to the discussion? Seriously, if you know of more
> information, please share.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Diana Engle
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:08 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
> So discouraging to see this thread, filled with such broad
> generalizations
> of people based on ethnic origin and religion. I will say that, although
> many people who are blind fight against generalizations about the blind,
> it
> is clear that some fall into the same trap of making genralizations
> about
> other groups of people.
>
> dE
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Cheryl Osborn
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
> Yes, I agree that religion has something to do with it, along with
> ignorance and poverty.  I do live in a rural area.  When I have gone
> into Guadalajara, I have met a lot of people who think using a guide
> dog is pretty neet stuff.  At present, there are no guide dog schools
> here.  about 15 years ago, someone tried to start a guide dog school
> but couldn't get enough support.  Big shock.
>
> On 4/19/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
>> Then to they are a devoutly catholic community, and the catholic faith
> does
>> not always place the blind at the top of the heap. Culture and
> religion
> work
>> against us here.
>>
>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> CEO/Founder
>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> New York, New York  10004
>> www.myblindspot.org
>> PH: 917-553-0347
>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
> who is
>> doing it."
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Hope Paulos
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:00 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>> Just to put my 2 cents in here, this seems to be the belief for all
> hispanic
>>
>> culture. Had the same views of me and my guide dog from my friends in
> Peru
>> and Chile. Think it's that there aren't very many blind peole with
> guide
>> dogs in these parts of the world.
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:27 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>>
>>> Rebecca,
>>>
>>> I believe that there is quite a difference in attitudes, blind
> Mexican
>>> or blind gringo.  From what I have experienced, Mexicans are very
> nice
>>> and helpful  to me and amazed that I am capable of doing anything.
>>> The only blind Mexicans that I have run into, literally, have been
>>> beggers.
>>>
>>> On 4/19/10, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> wrote:
>>>> Hi Linda.
>>>> If I can ask, why did you bring your dog to Mexico in 1992, and why
> did
>>>> you not bring a cane?
>>>> Am not trying to judge, just understand even if it is "I wasn't
>>>> thinking".
>>>> To Cheryll, how are attitudes towards blind people in Mexico? Any
>>>> difference in attitude between blind men and blind women?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:37 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>>>>
>>>> Hi Cheryl O,
>>>> Welcome to the list!
>>>>
>>>> I see you live in Mexico.  Would you please tell us about life in
> Mexico
>>>>
>>>> with a guide dog?
>>>>
>>>> I am Lyn and I'm working with my eighth dog - foourth one from
> Seeing
>>>> Eye.
>>>> My dog is Landon, a red Golden/Lab cross and I got him in 2007.
>>>>
>>>> We work as pet assisted therapists at a military hospital and in two
>>>> programs with our local Humane Society.  Landon LOVES this work! LOL
>>>>
>>>> I live in San Diego so we are very near Tijuana, BC, Mexico. I
> haven't
>>>> visited there since 1992 and don't feel like going there again.
> there
>>>> is a
>>>> warning from the US State Dept. about traveling to Mexico because of
> the
>>>>
>>>> drug cartels "activity" along the border towns.
>>>>
>>>> When I brought my guide dog there, the restaurants didn't want me to
>>>> bring
>>>> my dog inside.  After my explanations of the dog being my guide,
> they
>>>> compromised by having me sit by the door!  Also, I had someone come
> up
>>>> to me
>>>> to ask if I'd sell him my dog! I said no and told him in Spanish
> that
>>>> the
>>>> dog was my eyes - a perro de guia. He then left.  After that, I
> thought
>>>> about what if the guy reacted differently and grabbed my dog from me
> and
>>>>
>>>> there I would be, in a foreign contry, without a mobility aid! I
> didn't
>>>> even
>>>> have a white cane with me.  Along the border towns, they steal dogs
> to
>>>> sell
>>>> to labs even though reputable labs will NEVER take a microchipped or
>>>> tatooed
>>>> dog as it is very illegal.
>>>>
>>>> The other thing is that Mexico has no laws regarding having dogs
>>>> vaccinated
>>>> against Rabies or other diseases. Do you know if any of this has
>>>> changed?
>>>>
>>>> Again, welcome and look forward to hearing from you about life in
>>>> Mexico!
>>>>
>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:05 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the welcome Marsha.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your Q is certainly not too personal.  I live in a very small town
> in
>>>>> central Mexico.  My husband and I retired here about 4 years ago.
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