[nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people

Wed Apr 21 15:56:15 UTC 2010

I agree, wow, as in, that was elequent and well thought out, and I 
definitely do agree.

Meghan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people

> Yeah, wow
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Osborn
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
> Wow!!!
>
> On 4/20/10, Diana Engle <lapinguina at comcast.net> wrote:
>> My post was to point out that people are individuals, even though the
>> individuals belong to groups that may include a particular ethnic group,
>> religion, disability status or whatever. We cannot say that everyone in a
>> particular group holds the same beliefs, attitudes, behaviors, etc.
>>
>> The way to talk about cultures (and, BTW, there is not a single Hispanic
>> culture), ethnic groups, religions, disability groups, socioeconomic
> levels,
>> etc. *without* making generalizations, is by speaking of our particular
>> experiences with *individuals*.
>>
>> Regarding attitudes toward my guide dog and blindness, I have had both
>> positive and negative experiences with people who are Chinese, Muslim,
> white
>> Americans, black Americans, rich, poor, Mexican, Catholic, etc. My
>> experiences are with individuals and I would not extend those experiences
>> into generalizations about the groups those individuals belong to.
>>
>> I have seen on lists before people frustrated because a sighted person 
>> has
>> expressed some silly or demeaning generalization about people who are
> blind.
>> If we don't like to be the subject of others' generalizations, then we
>> should not create generalizations of others.
>>
>> dE
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 2:25 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>> Can you add anything to the discussion? Seriously, if you know of more
>> information, please share.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Diana Engle
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:08 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>> So discouraging to see this thread, filled with such broad
>> generalizations
>> of people based on ethnic origin and religion. I will say that, although
>> many people who are blind fight against generalizations about the blind,
>> it
>> is clear that some fall into the same trap of making genralizations
>> about
>> other groups of people.
>>
>> dE
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Cheryl Osborn
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:33 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>> Yes, I agree that religion has something to do with it, along with
>> ignorance and poverty.  I do live in a rural area.  When I have gone
>> into Guadalajara, I have met a lot of people who think using a guide
>> dog is pretty neet stuff.  At present, there are no guide dog schools
>> here.  about 15 years ago, someone tried to start a guide dog school
>> but couldn't get enough support.  Big shock.
>>
>> On 4/19/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
>>> Then to they are a devoutly catholic community, and the catholic faith
>> does
>>> not always place the blind at the top of the heap. Culture and
>> religion
>> work
>>> against us here.
>>>
>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>> CEO/Founder
>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>> New York, New York  10004
>>> www.myblindspot.org
>>> PH: 917-553-0347
>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
>> who is
>>> doing it."
>>>
>>>
>>> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Hope Paulos
>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:00 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>>
>>> Just to put my 2 cents in here, this seems to be the belief for all
>> hispanic
>>>
>>> culture. Had the same views of me and my guide dog from my friends in
>> Peru
>>> and Chile. Think it's that there aren't very many blind peole with
>> guide
>>> dogs in these parts of the world.
>>> Hope and Beignet
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:27 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rebecca,
>>>>
>>>> I believe that there is quite a difference in attitudes, blind
>> Mexican
>>>> or blind gringo.  From what I have experienced, Mexicans are very
>> nice
>>>> and helpful  to me and amazed that I am capable of doing anything.
>>>> The only blind Mexicans that I have run into, literally, have been
>>>> beggers.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/19/10, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Linda.
>>>>> If I can ask, why did you bring your dog to Mexico in 1992, and why
>> did
>>>>> you not bring a cane?
>>>>> Am not trying to judge, just understand even if it is "I wasn't
>>>>> thinking".
>>>>> To Cheryll, how are attitudes towards blind people in Mexico? Any
>>>>> difference in attitude between blind men and blind women?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:37 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cheryl O,
>>>>> Welcome to the list!
>>>>>
>>>>> I see you live in Mexico.  Would you please tell us about life in
>> Mexico
>>>>>
>>>>> with a guide dog?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am Lyn and I'm working with my eighth dog - foourth one from
>> Seeing
>>>>> Eye.
>>>>> My dog is Landon, a red Golden/Lab cross and I got him in 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> We work as pet assisted therapists at a military hospital and in two
>>>>> programs with our local Humane Society.  Landon LOVES this work! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in San Diego so we are very near Tijuana, BC, Mexico. I
>> haven't
>>>>> visited there since 1992 and don't feel like going there again.
>> there
>>>>> is a
>>>>> warning from the US State Dept. about traveling to Mexico because of
>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> drug cartels "activity" along the border towns.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I brought my guide dog there, the restaurants didn't want me to
>>>>> bring
>>>>> my dog inside.  After my explanations of the dog being my guide,
>> they
>>>>> compromised by having me sit by the door!  Also, I had someone come
>> up
>>>>> to me
>>>>> to ask if I'd sell him my dog! I said no and told him in Spanish
>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> dog was my eyes - a perro de guia. He then left.  After that, I
>> thought
>>>>> about what if the guy reacted differently and grabbed my dog from me
>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> there I would be, in a foreign contry, without a mobility aid! I
>> didn't
>>>>> even
>>>>> have a white cane with me.  Along the border towns, they steal dogs
>> to
>>>>> sell
>>>>> to labs even though reputable labs will NEVER take a microchipped or
>>>>> tatooed
>>>>> dog as it is very illegal.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other thing is that Mexico has no laws regarding having dogs
>>>>> vaccinated
>>>>> against Rabies or other diseases. Do you know if any of this has
>>>>> changed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, welcome and look forward to hearing from you about life in
>>>>> Mexico!
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the welcome Marsha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your Q is certainly not too personal.  I live in a very small town
>> in
>>>>>> central Mexico.  My husband and I retired here about 4 years ago.
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