[nagdu] being reported to your school

[Julie J]

Rebecca,

Yes, you're right.  I forgot about that.  So that's one for animal control 
and I can't even begin to count reports to the schools.

also Marti has owner trained her guides.  We don't have any way to know if 
the individuals tried to contact a school first.

Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] being reported to your school


> Didn't Marti have animal control called on her?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Julie J
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:30 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] being reported to your school
>
> Rebecca,
>
> I'm basing my assumption that the schools get called a lot more often
> than
> animal control primarily from the people on this list.  There are many
> people who have stated that they have either reported someone else or
> been
> reported, but I can't think of a single person on this list who has said
>
> that they have called animal control or had them show up at the door.
>
> Not very scientific, but I think it's a decent indicator.
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] being reported to your school
>
>
>> Part of the people calling the school is that harnesses and leashes
> have
>> the school logo on them. Might be something to think about.
>> Also, do we know that people aren't calling locall aw enforcement?
>> It's my take that Animal Control will only get involved if there is
>> really nasty stuff going on. A leash correction will be like "Um, we
>> don't care
>> But yeah I do wonder why to the person that started this, you wouldn't
>> just like go talk to the person you're concerned about.
>> Also, I don't think a person not using their dog is something people
>> know about in time. Some may, but I think most get home, and then find
>> out that they don't enjoy a dog as much as they thought, or they find
>> that it was fine in school, but once they had to adjust to a dog, it
> is
>> not as doable or enjoyable as they had thought.
>> And telling people " I don't like using my dog" goes over like a lead
>> baloon. You have to be very confident in your decision and odds are,
>> your friend isn't there yet, otherwise you'd know what was up.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Julie J
>> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:50 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] being reported to your school
>>
>> As an owner trainer I am always fascinated by the phenomena of being
>> reported or reporting to the schools various perceived indiscretions
> of
>> guide dog use and abuse.  Certainly I agree that there are horrible
>> cases of
>> abuse out there, but what I hear about 99% of the time are cases that
>> involve lack of facts, lack of knowledge of guide dogs, revenge or
> just
>> plain medaling.
>>
>> I honestly do not understand the whole concept of reports to the
> school.
>>
>> Why is that people will report to the school but rarely to local
> police
>> or
>> animal enforcement agencies?  Why is it that people will rarely just
> go
>> directly to the blind guide dog handler and ask what's going on?
>>
>> I truly believe that if we want change to occur at the guide dog
>> programs it
>> has to begin with us.  I think calling the programs and making
> reports,
>> even
>> legitimate ones, perpetuates the programs custodial attitudes.  Why
> not
>> instead work with local law enforcement to address the situation?  Why
>> not
>> instead directly confront the person about their behavior with their
>> guide
>> dog?  Instead of offering judgment why not try some attempt at
>> understanding?
>>
>> If I am missing something obvious here, please tell me.  I really
> would
>> like
>> to understand this.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
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