[nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket

Tue Aug 10 21:21:03 UTC 2010

Rebecca,

>From what Steve has written on this list and the understanding of the laws 
he has demonstrated, I have every confidence that he will be just fine in 
conveying his meaning to the speaker.

Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket


> An example of what? Be sure you're clear so you don't convey the wrong
> message.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Johnson
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from
> supermarket
>
> Julie,
>
> I would agree.  There are really 4 issues at hand here and possibly
> more.
> 1.  dog not being properly trained to relieve itself, which leads to the
> next...
> 2.  uncontrolled dog
> 3.  removal of both dog and handler
> 4.  provision placed on public access by store owner/s
>
> It will be indeed interesting, and invite you to come to our Service Dog
> Seminar in Wisconsin on Sept. 11.  I will be forwarding this article to
> our
> keynote speaker to use as an example...that is if she doesn't already
> have
> it marked as such.
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:02 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from
> supermarket
>
> I'm thinking that under the law the woman can only be asked to remove
> her
> dog for that shopping trip.  The handler is still allowed access to the
> store and the dog must be allowed in in the future.   Now that the DOJ
> has
> revised it's guidelines and has included provisions about dogs being
> housebroken, I'm not sure how exactly accidents will be handled.  Dogs
> get
> sick and stuff happens sometimes, I don't think that means a dog isn't
> housebroken.  I suppose we won't really know until there are actual
> cases
> that go to court.
>
> Of course all that is assuming that the news story is accurate.  The bit
> about calling ahead is outrageous at best.
>
> JMHO
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Cannon" <cannona at fireantproductions.com>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:16 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket
>
>
> If the store is to be believed, it sounds like the owner is largely at
> fault, though the bit about calling ahead leaves a bad taste in my
> mouth.
>
>>From
>>http://www.examiner.com/x-36055-Hartford-Disability-Examiner~y2010m8d4-
> Disa
> bled-vet-and-service-dog-banned-from-supermarket
>
> According to NBC News Connecticut, Kim Mucha is a veteran who served
> in the Air Force Military Police. She was injured in battle and now
> requires the help
> of a service dog to keep her balance and reach lower placed objects.
>
> Ms. Mucha entered the Big Y in North Haven, Connecticut along with her
> service dog, Ivy, to do some shopping. While in the store, Ivy
> defecated in an aisle.
> Despite the fact that Mucha cleaned up the feces immediately, she was
> banned from the store. Mucha told the New Haven Register, "They
> treated me and my
> dog like criminals."
>
> A spokeswoman for the store, Claire D'Amour-Daley, defended the
> decision stating the store was well within its right. She told the
> Register that the dog
> was not on a leash at the time that it had several accidents,
> including one near a food preparation area. D'Amour-Daley went on to
> say that the Big Y
> is happy to work with people and their service dogs, but prefers that
> the customer call ahead to inform the store prior to arrival.
>
> There is no stipulation in the
> Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)
> stating that individuals need to give notice to a business prior to
> entering. Mucha told the paper that she is considering filing a
> lawsuit against the
> Big Y stores.
>
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