[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket

[Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)]

Actually, I didn't know what you meant. So long as you know and your
presenter know and are on the same page or at least in agreement as to
the presentation, what I think doesn't much matter

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:32 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from
supermarket

Use this case to discuss.  Which, by the way, she has agreed and will
do.  I
think you knew what I meant, but clarity is always good...thanks!

Steve




-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:53 PM
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supermarket

An example of what? Be sure you're clear so you don't convey the wrong
message.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Of Steve Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 7:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from
supermarket

Julie,

I would agree.  There are really 4 issues at hand here and possibly
more.
1.  dog not being properly trained to relieve itself, which leads to the
next...
2.  uncontrolled dog
3.  removal of both dog and handler
4.  provision placed on public access by store owner/s

It will be indeed interesting, and invite you to come to our Service Dog
Seminar in Wisconsin on Sept. 11.  I will be forwarding this article to
our
keynote speaker to use as an example...that is if she doesn't already
have
it marked as such.  
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Of Julie J
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:02 PM
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supermarket

I'm thinking that under the law the woman can only be asked to remove
her
dog for that shopping trip.  The handler is still allowed access to the 
store and the dog must be allowed in in the future.   Now that the DOJ
has
revised it's guidelines and has included provisions about dogs being
housebroken, I'm not sure how exactly accidents will be handled.  Dogs
get
sick and stuff happens sometimes, I don't think that means a dog isn't
housebroken.  I suppose we won't really know until there are actual
cases
that go to court.

Of course all that is assuming that the news story is accurate.  The bit
about calling ahead is outrageous at best.

JMHO
Julie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Cannon" <cannona at fireantproductions.com>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:16 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket


If the store is to be believed, it sounds like the owner is largely at
fault, though the bit about calling ahead leaves a bad taste in my
mouth.

>From
>http://www.examiner.com/x-36055-Hartford-Disability-Examiner~y2010m8d4-
Disa
bled-vet-and-service-dog-banned-from-supermarket

According to NBC News Connecticut, Kim Mucha is a veteran who served in
the
Air Force Military Police. She was injured in battle and now requires
the
help of a service dog to keep her balance and reach lower placed
objects.

Ms. Mucha entered the Big Y in North Haven, Connecticut along with her
service dog, Ivy, to do some shopping. While in the store, Ivy defecated
in
an aisle.
Despite the fact that Mucha cleaned up the feces immediately, she was
banned
from the store. Mucha told the New Haven Register, "They treated me and
my
dog like criminals."

A spokeswoman for the store, Claire D'Amour-Daley, defended the decision
stating the store was well within its right. She told the Register that
the
dog was not on a leash at the time that it had several accidents,
including
one near a food preparation area. D'Amour-Daley went on to say that the
Big
Y is happy to work with people and their service dogs, but prefers that
the
customer call ahead to inform the store prior to arrival.

There is no stipulation in the
 Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)
 stating that individuals need to give notice to a business prior to
entering. Mucha told the paper that she is considering filing a lawsuit
against the Big Y stores.

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