[nagdu] anticipating

[Margo and Arrow]

I appreciate the dog's initiative.  I appreciate being notified and asked
about turns or doors and such.  I just say "no not now thank you, hup hup
and we go on.  

I like dogs who take a lot of initiative even if sometimes we have to debate
about something.

Margo andArrow 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Lyn Gwizdak
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:43 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] anticipating

Hi Julie,
Monty is doing the same thing as all my guides did and do. This is
initiative in the dog and it "asks" you if you want to turn because you've
been there before.  This is a great thing for the dog to do!

What you DO NOT want is a dog who insists on trying to drag you to where it
wants to go.  Soounds like Monty is doing the right thing by looking at you
to "ask" you if you want to turn here. If yes, give the command.  If not,
praise him for showing you the place.  I'll say to Landon,"Good boy!  We
don't want this now, hup up." Landon then knows that he did the right thing
to show me the place but understands that I don't want it then and all is
happy in his world.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:14 PM
Subject: [nagdu] anticipating


> Heya all,
>
> I will have had Monty two years tomorrow. We have worked together as a 
> team for about 10 months of that.  I was reflecting back on all the 
> progress we have made and how smoothly we are working together, at least 
> most days. *smile*
>
> Anyway this morning on the way to work I was pondering the issue of guides

> that anticipate turns.  My understanding is that most of the programs 
> discourage this.  I'm talking about a dog who makes a turn on a regular 
> route without direct direction from the handler to do so.
>
> Monty does this all the time.  I have actually cultivated the skill 
> because I appreciate it.  Of course if I feel him begin a turn and I want 
> to go another way I simply stop, praise him and give the new instructions.

> Also if we pass a place where we have turned in the past, but it's not a 
> really regular place, he'll sort of do a half turn with a pause and look 
> back to see if that's what I want.  I absolutely love this and can't 
> imagine working it differently.
>
> My route to work is basically straight west with only a deviation of one 
> block north.  I vary the route as much as is possible.  It really makes no

> difference where I choose to turn north, he always figures out where to go

> at the next corner.
>
> I'd love to hear how all of you balance the initiative of the dog, 
> anticipating turns, indicating possible turns and the like.
>
> Julie
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