[nagdu] dogs and ear popping and Re: a couple questions

Mon Dec 6 22:02:05 UTC 2010

My understanding about dog's ears and pressure changes is that the ear canal 
of a dog is very different from a person's.  they don't experience ear 
popping like we do.  the pressure change doesn't affect their ears in the 
same way that it does a person's.

But that info is from many years ago when I was reading up on similar 
things.

HTH
Julie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brenda" <bjnite at windstream.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [nagdu] dogs and ear popping and Re: a couple questions

> Well, maybe the TSEperson could hold the dog while I went through the body 
> scan.  Oh well, I have time.  Maybe by the time I make a decision the 
> situation at the airport will be better.
>
> One other concern, what about the poor dog's ears on the plane.  I have to 
> chew gum on take-off and landing.  How do dogs handle this without 
> discomfort?
> Brenda
>
> On 12/6/2010 2:50 PM, Julie J wrote:
>> Brenda,
>>
>> I don't think having the Seeing Eye instructor help you to your gate is 
>> going to effect your security requirements.  The TSA is going to do what 
>> the TSA is going to do.  I can see how having an TSE instructor there 
>> could help you advocate for correct security procedures.  However since 
>> the pat downs are within normal parameters the instructor isn't going to 
>> be able to get you out of it if that is what the TSA decides needs to 
>> happen.
>>
>> Sorry,
>> Julie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda" <bjnite at windstream.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> So if I choose Seeing Eye I donn't have to worry about a patdown because 
>>> I will have an escort to security, but if I choose GDB I run the risk. 
>>> I'm sure the Seeing Eye teams can navigate just fine, but it is 
>>> especially nice to know you get a little extra help on the way home. 
>>> Even when I was sighted I didn't like traveling in airports alone.
>>>
>>> Hey Melissa, how does your roomate like her Leader Dog and her 
>>> experience in training?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/6/2010 12:40 PM, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:14 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>> You probably won't be going through a body scan or invasive pat down if 
>>>> you
>>>> make sure you are not wearing or carrying metal on you. When you go 
>>>> home, at
>>>>
>>>> least from TSE, the instructors get a pass through the security and
>>>> accompany you to the gate. They aren't allowed to walk on the plane 
>>>> with you
>>>>
>>>> anymore though, but how lost can you get, even with a new dog, walking 
>>>> down
>>>> a jetway?By the time you leave GDB, you don't have the instructor going 
>>>> to
>>>> the gate with you, but at an unfamiliar airport, I ask for assistance
>>>> anyway.  The instructors at GDB really put a huge emphasis on getting 
>>>> the
>>>> dog to do what you want, and even on routes, they pretty quickly will 
>>>> follow
>>>> you byt not say much except if the dog does something and you didn't 
>>>> catch
>>>> it or if you are in immediate danger.  By the time you are in the 
>>>> airport
>>>> heading home, you will have all the skills you need from GDB to 
>>>> navigate an
>>>> airport with or without assistance by someone.
>>>> Jordan
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Brenda"<bjnite at windstream.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:54 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting about your horror stories about people who know people and
>>>> down the line about Leader.  My friend won't go anywhere else.  I have
>>>> had two direct stories about people who didn't feel they got help after
>>>> graduation from Seeing Eye, however, both would recommend Seeing Eye.
>>>> Seems like in both cases there are more to the stories than at first
>>>> glance.  I'm hoping the poster that has had several Leader dogs will
>>>> post some information about the school.   I am looking for information
>>>> like Shannon posted and also Cindy has provided some very good points 
>>>> to
>>>> think about.
>>>>
>>>> Here is one point I am considering - If I have to fly I could well have
>>>> to endure a body scan on the way home.  Hard as I might try not to set
>>>> off a metal detector, I might just be the random lucky winner of a full
>>>> body pat down (grope) as people with service dogs are not allowed to go
>>>> through the full body scan machines, and I am not up to that so I will
>>>> have to consider schools I can reach by bus or possibly train.  I 
>>>> really
>>>> like GDB's shorter program though (and that would be one long train 
>>>> ride).
>>>>
>>>> True this post has brought out some negative comments, but I am really
>>>> learning a lot about the topic of choosing a guide dog school.  They 
>>>> say
>>>> this choice is as important as choosing a college, so I hope the thread
>>>> continues for a while.
>>>> Brenda
>>>> On 12/6/2010 9:46 AM, Jordan Gallacher wrote:
>>>>> I've heard quite a few horror stories from people who have or people 
>>>>> who
>>>>> know people who have gotten their dogs from Leader dogs.
>>>>> Jordan
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Brenda
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:15 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Terra
>>>>> I'm glad you asked this question.  I'm looking at Leader and GDB.  I
>>>>> have a friend who has gotten all her dogs (3 or 4 over the years) from
>>>>> Leader and is very pleased.  I will be taking their Accelerated 
>>>>> Mobility
>>>>> course in 2011 so will get some exposure to the school.  I know there 
>>>>> is
>>>>> a poster to this list who has been pleased with his experience with
>>>>> Leader Dogs (also 3 I think over time).
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to reading more replies to your question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/6/2010 12:44 AM, Terra Syslo wrote:
>>>>>> Hi. I am in the process to start applying to guide dog schools, and I
>>>>> think
>>>>>> I have it narrowed down to 2 or 3 schools I'm looking at. Can anyone 
>>>>>> give
>>>>> me
>>>>>> some information as to your experiences with Leader Dogs for the 
>>>>>> Blind?
>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> also considering GDF and maybe Seeing Eye. Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>
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