[nagdu] a couple questions

Tue Dec 7 16:29:02 UTC 2010

Cindy, having lived in eastern Ontario and Calgary, I know all about that 
nasty smooth slick ice.  Indeed, you are mostly correct.  However, depending 
on how and when spring arrives, sidewalks In Winnipeg can get slick almost 
beyond belief.  This is not so much due to freezing rain but the freeze/melt 
cycle of accumulated snow which may have been around since early November. 
In Manitoba, what I think of as true spring, (daytime temperatures above 35 
US in the daytime) may arrive any time from mid march to mid April.

The problem of course with snow accumulation and cold is that the stuff 
never gets absolutely cleared away but rather packs down into something 
seriously hard.  This is not the fault of for example, the snow-clearing 
equipment but the difficulty of scraping down to the cement due to the 
possibility of damaging both the sidewalk plough and curbs and sidewalks. 
So, for a new dog, stopping exactly at curbs can be virtually impossible. 
You'll understand that this situation, plus having to wear serious head-ear 
protection could cause one to become two-dimensional if:

A one allows their attention to slack.  Even after 35 years of dogdum, I've 
had close calls, saved either by my own quickness or my dog seeing what I 
simply didn't hear.

2.  Inattentive drivers say, fiddling with some electronic device while 
eating a chemical-laden breakfast, shaving, doing their make-up either 
individually or in various combinations.

So, I'm glad if New Jersey gets some serious winter since my new dot will 
then face less challenges on returning to a place we lovingly call 
winterpeg.  That blindman's fog (snow) can be a real challenge.

Doug: feeling a little flaky.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

> So far I hear NJ is not having a wimpy toy winter, though for you almost 
> any
> would be. I've heard tat because of that cold, though, it is not as slick
> walking.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at mts.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
> Julie, you guys know absolutely nothing about what you call cold.  Where I
> live In Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, we can, and often do, have temperatures 
> in
> the daytime of minus 35 degrees Celsius, about minus 30 degrees 
> Fahrenheit.
> Yah, I'm serious.  I have a friend who lives in a small northern Manitoba
> town who I visited at Xmas and went for a walk at minus 45 degrees (who
> bloody cares about Fahrenheit or Celsius when you get that low.)
> Thankfully, there was little wind, the wind chill was only minus 55 
> Celsius.
>
> This is a consideration for me when getting a new dog; I will be going to
> Seeing Eye in March for dog number 6 with the idea that, when I return 
> home
> in April, the snow may be on it's way out and hopefully, new jersey will 
> not
> have one of it's wimpy toy winters where there is little to no snow.  This
> way, the shock will not be such a stress for the new beastie when I arrive
> back home.
>
> Doug:
>
> It's so cold here that dogs don't answer when they're called until spring
> and the sound melts.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> I'm with you!  It was something like 9 degrees when I walked to work this
>> morning.  No snow yet, but it could happen any day now.  I wonder how a
>> dog from such a warm climate would adjust to the really cold winters 
>> here?
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> Oh, Julie, let's go get us a dog!!!!!! YUM!
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually there is a guide dog school in HA, I just made several 
>>> harnesses
>>> for them.  I want to go there.  *smiles*  It is called Eye of the
>>> Pacific.
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cindy,
>>>>
>>>> LOL Knowing yourself and what is most important is a big deal.  If
>>>> anyone
>>>> ever opens a guide dog program in Hawaii, I'm there.  I don't care if I
>>>> have to live in a tent and they only train ugly dogs! LOL
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I think the quality of human food is the most important thing. If you
>>>>>are
>>>>> going to be there several weeks, then ya gotta make sure you are going
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> fed well. <Giggle> Julie, in no way am I disagreeing with you. I just
>>>>> love
>>>>> love love food!
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Terra,
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the list!  I love your name!  I'm Julie, one of the
>>>>> moderators.
>>>>> I'm working with Monty, my owner trained Boxer and Lab mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry about all the conflicting opinions.  You will find the
>>>>> program
>>>>> that is right for you.  If you stick around long enough you'll hear 
>>>>> the
>>>>> most
>>>>> horrible things about a particular program and 30 seconds later you'll
>>>>> be
>>>>> reading glowing reviews.  I've never been to any of the guide dog
>>>>> programs
>>>>> so I haven't a clue which one is best.  I would highly suggest that 
>>>>> you
>>>>> make
>>>>> a list of everything that is important to you like:
>>>>> ownership, breeds of dogs, length of training, instructor to student
>>>>> ratio,
>>>>> quality of food served, area of the country, availability of home
>>>>> training,
>>>>> or whatever else is important to you.
>>>>> Then compare that list to what the various programs have to offer.
>>>>> anyway
>>>>> that's what I'd do if I were in the market for a guide dog from a
>>>>> program.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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