[nagdu] a couple questions

Wed Dec 8 18:15:53 UTC 2010

You don't want me to physically remove you from my dog.  I'll make sure to
cause some pain with no lasting damage.  Don't try that unless you've
studied martial arts.
Jordan

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Dan Weiner
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:05 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

Oh, well, takes all kinds, right?
I'm actually much more liberal about petting than most of our friends on the
list.
Still, there are times to do it and times not to...I was once on a subway
platform and had this silly discussion with a lady who felt I was
unreasonable for telling her please not to pet the dog. I was actually very
polite, but she wanted to argue.
I want my hounds paying attention when we're walking a narrow double-edged
platform, and she sort of walked away mumbling to herself "I never heard of
such a thing, hummmmpf, hummpf, the dog's working...hmmmmpf."
Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jordan Gallacher
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:59 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

I had someone do that about a month ago.  I was running late for class, and
the dog pulled her usual stunt and decided to put the brakes on and wouldn't
go anywhere.  I put on my drill sergeant routine, along with a little
physical action, knowing that would work, and someone wanted to argue with
me about it.  Well, she wouldn't listent o me, so I finally said Mind your
own business, and she still was being a problem.  Then I just walked off now
even later.  Fortunately, someone had obviously witnessed it, and was
explaining things to her a few hours later.
Jordan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Dan Weiner
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:49 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

People are interesting, a aren't they?

I'm wondering if they'd  say  the same thing if they saw you discipline your
kids or whatever?
I've often wondered,  whether these people think the dog is more important
than we are.
And this is someone, yours truly, who loves dogs and would hate to see
abuse.
I also really enjoy having a dog and have been in situations where I've had
to be firm with my dog based on the situation.   .

I suppose the only thing to remember is that these folks aren't blind and
don't have to depend on the dog's work for the team to be a success,
obviously.

When their safety depends on whether a dog is distracted or not, then I'll
worry about their opinion.  Having said that though, it still isn't easy to
deal with. You don't know when someone's watching and plus you may be in a
situation where the ignoramus might be a colleague, friend, family member,
or someone you have to deal with.
My only solution is this: I've found that if I don't let myself get upset,
don't overreact, just act calmly when dealing with these bozos, it usually
goes away.
Now, should we have to be saintly and patient all the time? No, absolutely
not.
Let's see, when I had my first dog I had to be very strict about
distractions...actually this is happening with my present pup.
With my first dog I did get people saying "Why are you beating that dog".
I would:

1. just ignore them
2. Explain calmly
3. If they didn't get it go on my way or say something like "I'm sorry you
feel that way, have a wonderful day". In Dan's parlance, when I say that in
a certain tone it really means "Go fornicate with yourself".--smile

Dan

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