[nagdu] a couple questions

Wed Dec 8 20:07:54 UTC 2010

Marion,

Yup!  The thing about nasty contagious viruses is that they don't give a
whit about our legal rights.  Yes, we need balance about our needs and legal
rights with our dogs, but we also need to take into account the risk they
pose in this case.  There are animals you can't bring into the U.S. without
quarantine, whether they're service animals, show animals or what.  They go
through quarantine because we don't want whatever disease from whatever
overseas country they're coming from.  You can't bring certain fruits and
vegetables in from Mexico or Canada, either, and vice versa.

I don't have a solution for where the balance lies when it comes to travel
to Hawaii with a guide dog.  But sometimes reality does require a balance of
opposing forces.

With increasing globalization and quick affordable travel for all, even a
nice, isolated island chain like Hawaii will get to have endemic rabies just
like all the rest of us.  They will have to deal with it just like us
mainlanders and all.  So the quarantine on that score will be moot, won't
it?  /smile/  Also, the first few waves of the disease among the indigenous
animal populations -- which have no immunity to it -- will be devastating.
Sigh.

Knowing bureaucracy and the legal system even as little as I do, I suddenly
wonder how many years it will take for the law to catch up with the reality
that the quarantine is no longer of any point.  /grin/

JMHO

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Marion Gwizdala
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:54 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

Jordan,
    Just as I am not an attorney, I am neither a veterinarian. My 
understanding, though, is that a rabies vaccination, in and of itself, is 
not a guarantee that the animal is free of the virus. Just as it is required

that children be vaccinated for specific diseases and be tested to ensure 
they are free of certain diseases before they can be allowed in school and 
the school will not pay for  such innoculations and tests, our dogs must 
pass a test to see if they have the proper antibodies against the condition.

IMHO, if I were Hawaiian, I would want to maintain a rabies-free 
environment!

Fraternally yours,
Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

> Well, they need to pick up the cost for you to take your dog to the vet 
> and
> get it tested then.  As long as your rabies vaccine is current, every 
> three
> years in LA, but my vet does it every year, there shouldn't be any issue.
> Jordan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 4:18 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> Jordan,
>    I believe it is perfectly reasonable for Hawaiian officials to wish to
> keep their state free of rabies. Though I am not the expert on this topic,
> there are those on this list who do have the expertise to address your
> concerns.
>
> fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jgallacher1987 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> I'm not trying to challenge that, but if you really think about it, we
>> should be able to enter any state in the U.S. without needing to go
>> through
>> any type of paper work.  I would say that HI is really close to steppinmg
>> out of line though because it's almost like trying to enter another
>> country
>> but not quite.
>> Jordan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Meghan Whalen
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:37 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> HI is a state, but HI is also currently, I believe free of rabies and
>> fleas,
>>
>> and this is something they understandably want to keep as the case.  They
>> do
>>
>> have an expedited process for service dogs, but they still need to be
>> cleared for the same reasons any other animal coming in needs to be
>> cleared.
>>
>> Not every rule and regulation was made to be challenged.  Some do exist
>> for
>> a perfectly respectable reason.  It has become clear to me over the years
>> that it is worth one's time to carefully choose what to waste negative
>> energy on.
>>
>> Meghan
>>
>>
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