[nagdu] a couple questions

Thu Dec 9 01:29:12 UTC 2010

Yah but it takes a log of leg power to run the generator to run the furnace. 
Of course, that peddling in itself also generates heat.

Doug: wanna sit beside my latest flame?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

> Gasp! You have electricity there? <Giggle>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at mts.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
> Actually in Canada, we don't live in houses during the winter; we build
> Igloos and use whale blubber as a heat source.  Of course, there's a 
> reason
> why the Inuit eat whale meat and blubber, you'd blubber too if you had to
> eat whale meat.  That feels better!
>
> People who live in cold climates, except for Canadians of course, build
> properly insulated houses with appropriate heating--hot water or steam
> radiators, radiant heating systems built into the floor, forced air 
> heating
> which is produced by some type of fuel heated furnace (this might include
> electricity)  The furnace has a fan to blow the heated air through ducts 
> to
> warm the house.  And on it goes.
>
> As for relieving the dog, if we can't teach them to use a regular toilet, 
> we
> wrap up with insulated garments, (don't forget the toque or some other 
> head
> face and ear covering.)  Dogs for the most part adapt well to seriously 
> cold
> weather except when waiting at traffic lights and bus stops which can be
> painful for them at say, minus 40.  The real issue is of course, cold feet
> (we're not talking cowardess here.)  Booties may help but they are
> troublesome inasmuch as the dog looses that part of an important tactile
> input.  Further, getting on and off busses causes the boots to get wet in
> the puddles on the floor from melted human boot snow and that makes things
> even worse.
>
> Doug: When it's springtime in Alaska, it's 40 below.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> Dough and others who live in very cold temps, what do you do to keep you
>> and your dogs safe on walks and also for those quick park time trips?
>> Very curious as I've never experienced temps that cold. Part of me would
>> like to.
>> How do you keep your houses warm? Do you have a furnace on steroids? I'm
>> intrigued. Write me off list if you want.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:09 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>> Doug,
>>    I guess it's all a metter of perspective, huh? (grin) It is very
>> cold
>> here - the high today is expected to only be 54 degrees! (I'm in Tampa,
>> Florida!)
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at mts.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> Julie, you guys know absolutely nothing about what you call cold.
>> Where I
>>> live In Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, we can, and often do, have
>> temperatures
>>> in the daytime of minus 35 degrees Celsius, about minus 30 degrees
>>> Fahrenheit. Yah, I'm serious.  I have a friend who lives in a small
>>> northern Manitoba town who I visited at Xmas and went for a walk at
>> minus
>>> 45 degrees (who bloody cares about Fahrenheit or Celsius when you get
>> that
>>> low.) Thankfully, there was little wind, the wind chill was only minus
>> 55
>>> Celsius.
>>>
>>> This is a consideration for me when getting a new dog; I will be going
>> to
>>> Seeing Eye in March for dog number 6 with the idea that, when I return
>>
>>> home in April, the snow may be on it's way out and hopefully, new
>> jersey
>>> will not have one of it's wimpy toy winters where there is little to
>> no
>>> snow.  This way, the shock will not be such a stress for the new
>> beastie
>>> when I arrive back home.
>>>
>>> Doug:
>>>
>>> It's so cold here that dogs don't answer when they're called until
>> spring
>>> and the sound melts.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm with you!  It was something like 9 degrees when I walked to work
>> this
>>>> morning.  No snow yet, but it could happen any day now.  I wonder how
>> a
>>>> dog from such a warm climate would adjust to the really cold winters
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, Julie, let's go get us a dog!!!!!! YUM!
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually there is a guide dog school in HA, I just made several
>>>>> harnesses
>>>>> for them.  I want to go there.  *smiles*  It is called Eye of the
>>>>> Pacific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>>
>>>>> Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine in
>> mind
>>>>> Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>>> 504-312-2609
>>>>> pawpower at cox.net
>>>>> www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>>> Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving
>>>>> harnesses.
>>>>>
>>>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> George Crabbe
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL Knowing yourself and what is most important is a big deal.  If
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> ever opens a guide dog program in Hawaii, I'm there.  I don't care
>> if I
>>>>>> have to live in a tent and they only train ugly dogs! LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:31 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think the quality of human food is the most important thing. If
>> you
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>> going to be there several weeks, then ya gotta make sure you are
>> going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> fed well. <Giggle> Julie, in no way am I disagreeing with you. I
>> just
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> love love food!
>>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Terra,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome to the list!  I love your name!  I'm Julie, one of the
>>>>>>> moderators.
>>>>>>> I'm working with Monty, my owner trained Boxer and Lab mix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't worry about all the conflicting opinions.  You will find the
>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>> that is right for you.  If you stick around long enough you'll
>> hear
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> horrible things about a particular program and 30 seconds later
>> you'll
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> reading glowing reviews.  I've never been to any of the guide dog
>>>>>>> programs
>>>>>>> so I haven't a clue which one is best.  I would highly suggest
>> that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> a list of everything that is important to you like:
>>>>>>> ownership, breeds of dogs, length of training, instructor to
>> student
>>>>>>> ratio,
>>>>>>> quality of food served, area of the country, availability of home
>>>>>>> training,
>>>>>>> or whatever else is important to you.
>>>>>>> Then compare that list to what the various programs have to offer.
>>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>>> that's what I'd do if I were in the market for a guide dog from a
>>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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