[nagdu] a couple questions

Fri Dec 10 02:15:08 UTC 2010

Doug,

I reserve my right to spend the winter complaining while it is 40 above and
raining.

Just sayin'.  /grn/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Doug Parisian
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:38 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

Actually in Canada, we don't live in houses during the winter; we build 
Igloos and use whale blubber as a heat source.  Of course, there's a reason 
why the Inuit eat whale meat and blubber, you'd blubber too if you had to 
eat whale meat.  That feels better!

People who live in cold climates, except for Canadians of course, build 
properly insulated houses with appropriate heating--hot water or steam 
radiators, radiant heating systems built into the floor, forced air heating 
which is produced by some type of fuel heated furnace (this might include 
electricity)  The furnace has a fan to blow the heated air through ducts to 
warm the house.  And on it goes.

As for relieving the dog, if we can't teach them to use a regular toilet, we

wrap up with insulated garments, (don't forget the toque or some other head 
face and ear covering.)  Dogs for the most part adapt well to seriously cold

weather except when waiting at traffic lights and bus stops which can be 
painful for them at say, minus 40.  The real issue is of course, cold feet 
(we're not talking cowardess here.)  Booties may help but they are 
troublesome inasmuch as the dog looses that part of an important tactile 
input.  Further, getting on and off busses causes the boots to get wet in 
the puddles on the floor from melted human boot snow and that makes things 
even worse.

Doug: When it's springtime in Alaska, it's 40 below.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions

> Dough and others who live in very cold temps, what do you do to keep you
> and your dogs safe on walks and also for those quick park time trips?
> Very curious as I've never experienced temps that cold. Part of me would
> like to.
> How do you keep your houses warm? Do you have a furnace on steroids? I'm
> intrigued. Write me off list if you want.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:09 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
> Doug,
>    I guess it's all a metter of perspective, huh? (grin) It is very
> cold
> here - the high today is expected to only be 54 degrees! (I'm in Tampa,
> Florida!)
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Parisian" <eggmann at mts.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>
>
>> Julie, you guys know absolutely nothing about what you call cold.
> Where I
>> live In Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, we can, and often do, have
> temperatures
>> in the daytime of minus 35 degrees Celsius, about minus 30 degrees
>> Fahrenheit. Yah, I'm serious.  I have a friend who lives in a small
>> northern Manitoba town who I visited at Xmas and went for a walk at
> minus
>> 45 degrees (who bloody cares about Fahrenheit or Celsius when you get
> that
>> low.) Thankfully, there was little wind, the wind chill was only minus
> 55
>> Celsius.
>>
>> This is a consideration for me when getting a new dog; I will be going
> to
>> Seeing Eye in March for dog number 6 with the idea that, when I return
>
>> home in April, the snow may be on it's way out and hopefully, new
> jersey
>> will not have one of it's wimpy toy winters where there is little to
> no
>> snow.  This way, the shock will not be such a stress for the new
> beastie
>> when I arrive back home.
>>
>> Doug:
>>
>> It's so cold here that dogs don't answer when they're called until
> spring
>> and the sound melts.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>
>>
>>> I'm with you!  It was something like 9 degrees when I walked to work
> this
>>> morning.  No snow yet, but it could happen any day now.  I wonder how
> a
>>> dog from such a warm climate would adjust to the really cold winters
>>> here?
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, Julie, let's go get us a dog!!!!!! YUM!
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Pawpower Creations" <pawpower at cox.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually there is a guide dog school in HA, I just made several
>>>> harnesses
>>>> for them.  I want to go there.  *smiles*  It is called Eye of the
>>>> Pacific.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes from the Pawpower pack!
>>>> Bristol, Mill'E, Rudy, and Laveau
>>>>
>>>> Pawpower Creations, Products designed with you and your Canine in
> mind
>>>> Bob Blackner/Rox'E Homstad
>>>> 504-312-2609
>>>> pawpower at cox.net
>>>> www.pawpowercreations.com
>>>> Custom made guide dog harnesses, leashes, collars, and relieving
>>>> harnesses.
>>>>
>>>> With eye upraised his master's look to scan,
>>>> The joy, the solace, and the aid of man:
>>>> The rich man's guardian and the poor man's friend,
>>>> The only creature faithful to the end.
>>>>
>>>> George Crabbe
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cindy,
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL Knowing yourself and what is most important is a big deal.  If
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> ever opens a guide dog program in Hawaii, I'm there.  I don't care
> if I
>>>>> have to live in a tent and they only train ugly dogs! LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think the quality of human food is the most important thing. If
> you
>>>>>>are
>>>>>> going to be there several weeks, then ya gotta make sure you are
> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> fed well. <Giggle> Julie, in no way am I disagreeing with you. I
> just
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> love love food!
>>>>>> CL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:14 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] a couple questions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Terra,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to the list!  I love your name!  I'm Julie, one of the
>>>>>> moderators.
>>>>>> I'm working with Monty, my owner trained Boxer and Lab mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't worry about all the conflicting opinions.  You will find the
>>>>>> program
>>>>>> that is right for you.  If you stick around long enough you'll
> hear
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> horrible things about a particular program and 30 seconds later
> you'll
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> reading glowing reviews.  I've never been to any of the guide dog
>>>>>> programs
>>>>>> so I haven't a clue which one is best.  I would highly suggest
> that
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> a list of everything that is important to you like:
>>>>>> ownership, breeds of dogs, length of training, instructor to
> student
>>>>>> ratio,
>>>>>> quality of food served, area of the country, availability of home
>>>>>> training,
>>>>>> or whatever else is important to you.
>>>>>> Then compare that list to what the various programs have to offer.
>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>> that's what I'd do if I were in the market for a guide dog from a
>>>>>> program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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