[nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful

Marion & Martin swampfox1833 at verizon.net
Sat Feb 13 06:13:33 UTC 2010


Julie,
    And he sure can sell PupCakes and is a really Crappy Worker! (big smile) 
Tell him I said "Hey!"

Marion



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful


> Mark,
>
> LOL for sure!
> They did listen though and did admit that you have thought through the 
> idea. That is progress.  Be gentle and keep working at it.  They will 
> either come around or you will graduate and move out, either way you'll 
> get a guide dog.
>
> But from the parent perspective that is a wonderful response.  I'm going 
> to tuck it away for future use. I've always said my Kiddo could easily be 
> a lawyer or used car salesman, he has the gift of an answer for 
> everything!
>
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>
>
>> Using all the tips and perspective I have gained from this list and 
>> research, I made my best case about why I should get a guide dog. My 
>> parent's response is that I make a convincing argument, and I should join 
>> the debate teem. Just plain LOL.
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>
>>
>>> Fidelco is also close to you, Mark. It's in Bloomfield, Ct.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do not forget the gdf ion long island, that is just a ferry ride away 
>>>> my
>>>> friend.
>>>>
>>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>> CEO/Founder
>>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>> New York, New York  10004
>>>> www.myblindspot.org
>>>> PH: 917-553-0347
>>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who 
>>>> is
>>>> doing it."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:59 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all of you for your suggestions. I like both the Seeing Eye, and 
>>>> GDB.
>>>>
>>>> Ware as I live in MA the Seeing Eye is a lot closer. I am a junior in 
>>>> high
>>>> school so I haven't yet decided what college I will be attending. What 
>>>> I do
>>>> know, is I want to be in a big city with access to a good public 
>>>> transit
>>>> network such as the MBTA. I currently take the T to and from places all 
>>>> over
>>>>
>>>> Boston using my cane. Because of this independence I am having 
>>>> difficulty
>>>> explaining to my parents that a dog would only enhance it making me a 
>>>> more
>>>> competent, safer, and faster traveler. Have any of you ever experienced
>>>> complaints about your dog either shedding or smelling bad? Is this a 
>>>> problem
>>>>
>>>> with roommates in college? Like most teenagers my room is never clean 
>>>> for
>>>> long, but it is never that messy. I always take excellent care of all 
>>>> my
>>>> equipment, and don't see how the maintenance of a dog will be a 
>>>> problem. My
>>>> parents seem to have concerns of how I will maintain a dog in college. 
>>>> Any
>>>> thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First, where are you located? Maybe there is a guide program in your 
>>>>> area
>>>>> which would allow you to sort of host a dog for sometime until the 
>>>>> guide
>>>>> is
>>>>> matched up with a handler. This would help to introduce your parents 
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> concepts  and strength having a guide could and would lend to your 
>>>>> life.
>>>>> You
>>>>> could also let them know that their role in your life is to make you 
>>>>> as
>>>>> completely independent as possible and that the introduction of a 
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dog
>>>>> into your life would do just that. you could also play on their 
>>>>> sympathies
>>>>> by letting them know you are looking to be able to walk independently 
>>>>> with
>>>>> friends and thereby depend less on their eyes and more so on your own
>>>>> senses
>>>>> coupled with the security and independence a guide would lend to your
>>>>> life.
>>>>> Where are you intending on going to college? If you are hoping to go 
>>>>> away,
>>>>> your parents would need to understand  that a guide would help you to 
>>>>> move
>>>>> swiftly and securely through a campus ensuring your timely attendance 
>>>>> to
>>>>> all
>>>>> your classes. Again, maybe a talk with a teacher/principal  might help
>>>>> advance your crusade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>>>> CEO/Founder
>>>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>>>> New York, New York  10004
>>>>> www.myblindspot.org
>>>>> PH: 917-553-0347
>>>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>>>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one 
>>>>> who is
>>>>> doing it."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:11 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan W,
>>>>>
>>>>> My mom claims to be terrified of dogs, but yet we have a pet dog.  My
>>>>> parents claim that a guide dog will smell, then I point out that if 
>>>>> you
>>>>> take
>>>>>
>>>>> care of it properly it won't. Then I point out people we know with 
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dogs that don't smell. My dad's response to this is to tell this story 
>>>>> of
>>>>> his friend's son's roommate's friend had a roommate with a smelly 
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dog.
>>>>>
>>>>> This happened so long ago, and is so far removed from the situation 
>>>>> that I
>>>>> can't see how it possibly has any bearing on the current situation. 
>>>>> Also
>>>>> that story is so convoluted that is impossible to verify. And the 
>>>>> argument
>>>>> goes on and on Ad nauseam. It is getting to the point that I think 
>>>>> they
>>>>> are
>>>>> just attempting to exorcize there ability to make arbitrary decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:33 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, first question is "Is the reason your parents don't support 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> idea
>>>>>> of getting a dog that they don't like dogs?"--smile.
>>>>>> Second of all, what is your parents objection, I mean presumably 
>>>>>> you're
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> one who's blind so maybe you might know a little better than they do
>>>>>> whether
>>>>>> a dog would enhance your lifestyle or not.
>>>>>> I'm fortunate that by the time I wanted a dog, my parents had figured 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> I'd pretty much do what I wanted without permission, so my Dad just 
>>>>>> asked
>>>>>> one or two feeble questions and then left it alone.
>>>>>> He asked "Are you sure a dog will be worth the trouble, how do you 
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> it'll work out."
>>>>>> I explained that, never having a dog, a guide dog, that is,  I'd need 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> find it out for myself and I really wanted to take care of the dog 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> ready.
>>>>>> When I got home, he admired the dog enormously. But he asked the 
>>>>>> second
>>>>>> day
>>>>>> back home if the dog really had to go out with us to breakfast. I 
>>>>>> said it
>>>>>> did, when he seemed to balk I said "I love you Dad, and enjoy going 
>>>>>> out,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> this is important to me and if you don't want my guide dog than I'm
>>>>>> afraid
>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> won't be going".
>>>>>> Dead silence ensued, and the issue never came up again.  As a matter 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> fact, my Dad adopted my first hound after he retired and loved him. 
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> dog, Grant, even went to my Dad's funeral's
>>>>>> The only thing I wasn't really ready for was the access issues. Being 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> brilliant young man I was--smile--it never occurred to me that people
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have issues with a dog, I mean access issues to public places.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, tell us more what the problem is and we'll be happy to talk about 
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> There are some folks on this list who can be very good role models 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> mentors, I wish there had been such a list when I started out.  But, 
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't think there were such things as computer lists--smile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan W. and the Carter Dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Mark J. Cadigan
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:17 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Explaining to parents that guide dogs are useful
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am new to this list, and I am thinking of getting a guide dog for 
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> go to college. The only problem I am having is convincing my parents 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> guide dog is a useful mobility tool.  As you can probably guess, that 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> large obstacle. I am currently in high school, so I have to abide by 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> parent's wishes, or at least for now. What I am asking for is how 
>>>>>> best to
>>>>>> explain to them, that guide dogs are useful mobility tools, that will
>>>>>> enhance my independence rather than detract from it. I have given 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> literature, DVDs and have attempted to talk to them. Any 
>>>>>> instructional
>>>>>> materiel finds its way into the circular file, and they change the
>>>>>> subject
>>>>>> when I talk to them. Any and all suggestions are welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Mark
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