[nagdu] fidelco in Canada

Ioana Gandrabur igandrabur at gmx.de
Mon Feb 15 17:32:57 UTC 2010


I know that there is a guy with a fidelco dog living her ein Montreal so I
am not sure if he got it while he was in the USA or already living in
Canada.

regards,

Ioana

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On
Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: February 14, 2010 4:35 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] comparing schools


I believe Fidelco has changed to offering their services to people
nationwide, not just in the northeast. Seems I heard something about
this in the last 6-12 months. Perhaps a Fidelco graduate can confirm
this. They still offer only German Shepherds though.

Wayne

On 2/14/10, Michael Hingson <mhingson at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Gary is right.  Look at many aspects of a variety of schools.  Guide Dogs
> for the Blind, for example, has greatly reorganized its training structure
> to provide more one on one training and smaller classes in general.  Also,
> the school has renovated its dog training process with an eye on producing
> better teams.
>
> Fidelco provides in-home training in the North East and uses still, I
> believe, only German Shepards.
>
> On the surface schools may appear the same, but good research will show
that
> there are, in fact, interesting differences.
>
> The ownership issue is an importang one.  Ultimately, I prefer a school
> which will give ownership.  Whether or not the school offers it
immediately
> or a bit later is still a point of discussion.  However, the fact that
some
> schools do provide ownership shows progress in their thinking about blind
> students they serve.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Gary
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:44 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] researching programs
>
>
>
> Hi mark:
>
> I have two ccomments on this topic. First, you mention you think you will
go
> to seeing eye because they are close and give ownership. These are
certainly
> good reasons to pick  a school but I would recommend that you do some
> research on all the other schools, especially the ones that are relatively
> close to you, to learn more about how the programs are similar and how
they
> differ. This takes a bit of time and reading so  is something that might
be
> better done at a less busy time in your spring for sure. :)
>
> With regards to ownership, I agree that  we should get to own the dogs
upon
> graduation, or shortly there after. In talking to some schools that offer
> ownership after a year or two, they say the main reason they like this set
> up is in case the team doesn't work out for a variety of reasons. It makes
> the return of the dog an easier process. Myself, since I am waiting for a
> poodle, have much fewer schools to choose from. Right now I am waiting to
> hear if they will have a match for me at Canine Vision Canada for their
May
> class. I have decided that, although they retain ownership of the dog, I
> will go to this program. However, I will take opportunities to share with
> their executive director my thoughts  on this matter in hope that they
will
> come to change their policy in the future.
>
> Just my thoughts. Good luck on your search for an appropriate school and
> with all your current projects.
>
> Gary
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marion & Martin
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:36 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] researching programs
>
> Mark,
>     Well, you touch on one of my favorite topics - Ownership! I believe
the
> school should transfer ownership to the graduate upon graduation. There
may
> be extenuating circumstances because we are dealing with human nature, but
I
>
> believe this should be the exception rather than a pre-arranged
contractual
> agreement. If blind people have the right to care for their own children
> without fear of social interference, I believe we also have the ability to
> care for a dog! I have never heard a negative argument that could not be
> overcome by an affirmative one. There is no evidence to suggest that a
blind
>
> person is more likely to have unhealthy dogs. In fact, I believe we are
> generally held to a higher standard! The Seeing Eye has always had an
> ownership upon graduation policy and it seems to work quite well!
>     I know of too many instances in which schools have unduly interfered
> with a handler's rights with respect to their dog, using threats and
> intimidation. I even disagree with the retention of ownership of the gear.
> It's just one more controlling string to hold over someone's head. I have
my
>
> own harnesses. No one can take them away from me!
>     My soapbox is getting a little rickety, so I need to dust off the top
> and make a few repairs, and bring up the subject again! I hope more and
more
>
> people would speak up by choosing schools that have more respectful
> policies. Anything less is coustodial!
>
> Fraternally yours,
> marion Gwizdala
>
>
> argument - one that could not be overcome with evidence-based
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 12:50 PM
> Subject: [nagdu] researching programs
>
>
>> Julie,
>> I also love making lists! I have a few questions for you and the list in
>> general. What's the benefit of ownership of the dog verses if the program
>> retains ownership? I hate paperwork with a passion! How best to avoid
this
>
>> seemingly useless task. I like German shepherds, but that is just a
>> preference based on nothing concrete. What breeds of dogs make the best
>> guides?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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