[nagdu] seeing eye

Sun Feb 21 23:47:29 UTC 2010

Jennifer,
    As a former teacher and now public speaker and presenter, I will say to 
you what I say whenever I make a presentation in which I invite the audience 
to ask questions: The only stupid question is the one that wasn't asked! 
Part of the purpose of this list is to share information with other guide 
dog users and those interested in guide dog related issues. Another 
important element of this list is to mentor those interested in getting a 
guide dog, especially young people. When I am older and grayer (grin) I know 
that there will be someone we have mentored to take up the office and the 
banner of the division. Perhaps this person will be you; maybe it will be 
Mark. Whoever it will be, I hope we mentor a strong and dedicated 
Federationist that will nurture this Movement and lead it on into the 
future!
    Keep asking questions! In fact, never stop asking questions! this is how 
we learn and expand our consciousness!

fraternally yours,
Marion Gwizdala


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jennifer L Finley" <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye


> Is it bad that I am asking all of these questions?  I just feal like I am 
> bugging you all with my questions.  If not, I will keep asking.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>
>
>> When I was at Seeign Eye in the fall of 2008, they gave each one of us
>> the smaller bells that can clip onto the dog's collar. I was able to
>> request a few more due to a slight hearing loss I have. They also
>> provide the next 6 months of heart and flea meds I believe, along with
>> a few days supply of food and dog treats. AS if all that weren't
>> enough, you can buy things from their catelog of dog related material,
>> some which you might want, such as extra bowls, leashes, bed/night
>> chains, and other items. You can always call them to order any of
>> these after you leave class, but it's handy to have a choice of them
>> while in training as well. They also have some clothing in their
>> variety of things, such as shirts and fleece jackets. One of my
>> coworkers actually mistakened my fleece jacket I wore to work recently
>> for the same type of jacket that her school sells. Then of course we
>> got into a short debate of which school thought of it first, grin.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 2/21/10, Linda Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>> Ginger,
>>> Will you please tell Julie where Seeing Eye gets those soft crates we 
>>> had at
>>> school and they ordered one for me to buy?  thanks.
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:02 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks Wayne!
>>>>
>>>> The Vari-Kennel I have is the plastic sort with metal door and windows.
>>>> It's super huge.  Fortunately my husband doesn't mind using it as his
>>>> night stand! LOL
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to find a portable crate that would fold up reasonably small, 
>>>> be
>>>> light enough for me to easily carry and is big enough for my pony of a 
>>>> dog
>>>>
>>>> to fit into.  I have scoured the internet and found nothing.  I'm 
>>>> snowed
>>>> in again today, so maybe I'll give it another go today.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 10:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> >From what i remember, the school's crates were heavy duty plastic 
>>>>> >with
>>>>> metal doors that could be swung open or shut, and had latches you
>>>>> could use to lock the door shut. It looked more stationary than the
>>>>> travel crates others have described. I'm sure that if I needed one,
>>>>> then they would have provided me with one. I saw another student's
>>>>> crate for their dog and it was the travel kind previously described,
>>>>> with the zippers and it looked like it could be folded down pretty
>>>>> tight for easy carrying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/21/10, Jennifer L Finley <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Julie, what kind of crate did wain use?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:27 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Holy cow! That must be a seriously nice crate.  Do you happen to 
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> brand or what features it has?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought a super huge Vari-Kennel for Monty.  I think it's the 
>>>>>>> biggest
>>>>>>> size available.  My husband calls it "the dog barn".  ROFLOL  It 
>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> over $100  or so including the shipping.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't use tie down at all.  Monty loves his crate.  He will go in
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> sometimes in the afternoon just to hang out or take a nap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that he's grown out of his puppy craziness and is reliable in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> house, I don't use the crate as much as I used to.  Again, it's just
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> of the many things that you have to figure out what works in your
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Wayne Merritt" <wcmerritt at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:48 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You will be given a small mat for the dog to sleep on during one of
>>>>>>>> the first regular nightly lectures when you're at the school. This
>>>>>>>> will probably be the first night you're there, where they go over
>>>>>>>> basic stuff, everyone introduces themselves, and they hand out a 
>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>> things like the mats. Some dogs are crated at the Seeing Eye, but I
>>>>>>>> think that this depends on the dog. Many of my classmates had 
>>>>>>>> crates
>>>>>>>> for their dogs and some didn't. I didn't use a crate my first half 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> training, but asked for one during the second half. My dog seemed 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do fine with or without one. I looked into crates when I returned
>>>>>>>> home, but quickly discovered that the ones that the school was 
>>>>>>>> using,
>>>>>>>> were usually around $300 or more. I didn't much like the cheaper 
>>>>>>>> ones,
>>>>>>>> or couldn't find any that suited me, so I've just done without and 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> dog hasn't been worse for wear. I tried leaving the mat out, but 
>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>> eventually pushed it aside and now just sleeps on bare carpet and 
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> fine. If my apartment had floors then things might be different, 
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> then again who knows. I'm sure that she wouldn't be opposed to 
>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>> a nicer mat or doggie bed, but since she's done fine without one, 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> I really haven't seen the need. My trainer at the school pretty 
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> said as much when I brought up the topic of crates with him.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/20/10, Jennifer L Finley <jenniferfinley at embarqmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> thanks Joy I just was not sure about that.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Joy Relton" <jrelton at verizon.net>
>>>>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users'"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jennifer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you do use your cane up until the time that you begin to use
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>>> I would recommend bringing a folding cane so that you can pack it 
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>> suit case when you go home.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>>> Of Jennifer L Finley
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:09 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] seeing eye
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello this is Jennifer, I was wondering, when you first get to 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> seeing
>>>>>>>>>> eye, do you ever use your cane?  I know at some schools you go
>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>> guide.  Thanks let me know
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