[nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort

Fri Jan 1 19:58:33 UTC 2010

Albert,

It is also very much contingent on the level of severity of diabetes or 
seizure.  There is some case law that defines the word "substantial". 
Williams vs. Toyota comes to mind.   the condition must be to a level that 
is considered disability.  Just having diabetes does not make a person 
disabled.  It is how the disease affects the  substantial life activities of 
that person.

More reading for you!
Julie

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>I believe there is one out here on long island.
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>  From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>
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>  While initially some dogs did this trick or task of their own volition 
> and
>  as a true connection to their owners, there are two schools in the united
>  states that train dogs for seizure and diabetic detections.  I will dig 
> up
>  those schools out of my files and share the information with you all. I
>  first learned of this as a trainable task this summer when speaking to a
>  group of students with type one diabetes.  A parent asked me to 
> investigate
>  this option for her daughter and as I stated found two schools, one of 
> which
>  is based in Indiana if I recall correctly.  The cost to train such dogs 
> is
>  anywhere from 5 to 10 thousand dollars. my lions club here on long island 
> is
>  hoping to include them in our giving program this year. So let me get 
> back
>  to you all on this new breed of service animal which most certainly, as
>  properly outlined in Julie's  post will fall under the definition of a
>  service animal as protected under the ADA. I could see however, the task 
> or
>  service such an animal would provide could be cause for some serious
>  dialogue
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>  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> 
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>  Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:25 PM
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>  Good explanation!  I was mulling that one over, too; still getting there!
>  But I think you put it very well.  /smile/
>
>  Tami Smith-Kinney
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>  Albert,
>
>  most dogs who alert to a medical condition such as diabetes are doing
>  it out of instinct.  Some dogs choose their alert by engaging in some
>  very inappropriate behaviors for public access such as barking or
>  jumping up on the person.  The alert itself needs to be accompanied by
>  a *trained* task.
>
>  Here is my question.  If I had an alert dog who's default alert was
>  barking, and if I retrained this alert so that the dog nudges my arm
>  when I'm about to experience a medical event, would that then be a
>  train task?  I would say yes.  However if I did not retrain that alert
>  and just let my dog bark, it wouldn't be doing a trained task.
>
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