[nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort

Julie J julielj at windstream.net
Sat Jan 2 01:39:28 UTC 2010


Did you know that the term "wheelchair bound" is considered to be in very 
poor taste?

With that said, I think we need to make an effort to return to your 
regularly scheduled programming...guide dogs.

Thanks muchly!
Julie
NAGDU list moderator


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort


> There is a school called capable canines, which provide specific services
> for those needing assistance animals who are wheel chair bound. I know for 
> a
> fact that the animals from that organization  are afforded  the same
> protections our guides are as they perform specific tasks for their
> handlers. the people getting service animals from capable canines are
> afflicted with forms of paralysis. I know this because we just donated 
> 6000
> dollars to their organization. I do not believe they train animals to 
> detect
> seizures, or diabetes, but I will call the executive director next week to
> inquire.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort
>
> I believe there is one out here on long island.
>
> Cheryl Echevarria
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>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>
>  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:44 PM
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort
>
>
>  While initially some dogs did this trick or task of their own volition 
> and
>  as a true connection to their owners, there are two schools in the united
>  states that train dogs for seizure and diabetic detections.  I will dig 
> up
>  those schools out of my files and share the information with you all. I
>  first learned of this as a trainable task this summer when speaking to a
>  group of students with type one diabetes.  A parent asked me to
> investigate
>  this option for her daughter and as I stated found two schools, one of
> which
>  is based in Indiana if I recall correctly.  The cost to train such dogs 
> is
>  anywhere from 5 to 10 thousand dollars. my lions club here on long island
> is
>  hoping to include them in our giving program this year. So let me get 
> back
>  to you all on this new breed of service animal which most certainly, as
>  properly outlined in Julie's  post will fall under the definition of a
>  service animal as protected under the ADA. I could see however, the task
> or
>  service such an animal would provide could be cause for some serious
>  dialogue
>
>  Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>  CEO/Founder
>  My Blind Spot, Inc.
>  90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>  New York, New York  10004
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>  Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>  Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 1:25 PM
>  To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [buddy-l] A very bad legislative effort
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>  Good explanation!  I was mulling that one over, too; still getting there!
>  But I think you put it very well.  /smile/
>
>  Tami Smith-Kinney
>
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>  Albert,
>
>  most dogs who alert to a medical condition such as diabetes are doing
>  it out of instinct.  Some dogs choose their alert by engaging in some
>  very inappropriate behaviors for public access such as barking or
>  jumping up on the person.  The alert itself needs to be accompanied by
>  a *trained* task.
>
>  Here is my question.  If I had an alert dog who's default alert was
>  barking, and if I retrained this alert so that the dog nudges my arm
>  when I'm about to experience a medical event, would that then be a
>  train task?  I would say yes.  However if I did not retrain that alert
>  and just let my dog bark, it wouldn't be doing a trained task.
>
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