[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security

Tamara Smith-Kinney tamara.8024 at comcast.net
Wed Jul 21 20:28:36 UTC 2010 

Lyn,

That is too funny.  Whee!  It does help when people fall head over heels for
the guide dog, doesn't it?  /grin/

The Velcro Poodle is very much against having anyone but me hold onto her
leash.  And no touching!  She's loosened up some as she's gotten older, and
has finally decided that having the groomer take her leash is acceptable, so
long as we follow the correct ritual when I hand her over. It took about a
year, but she will now let DD hold onto her leash, so long as he isn't
trying to do anything with her and as long as I remain in view and she knows
it is okay...  She just within the past few months started going outside for
him when she needs to, which is great since I don't have to stagger out at 5
a.m. just to tell my dog it's okay to go out and potty.  /smile/

I'll do some more specific training brush up before we fly solo again, in
the event I get security people who want to take the leash again ...  But I
will also almost certainly refuse to hand it over!  I'm no more comfortable
with that sort of thing than she is!  From now on, I will be far more
willing to kick up a fuss at the first sign of trouble and improper requests
or actions on their part.  No matter how tired and grubby I feel...  /lol/
If I miss my connecting flight because of it, while my luggage with my
toothbrush and clean clothes and all goes on with out me...  Well, that's a
fate worse than death, but I won't have to work to be in a really mean mood.
/grin/

Ah, well.  We learn from these experiences, and then we can compare notes
and work together so that we and others may not have to deal with unexpected
and sometimes utterly weird hassles in the future.

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Linda Gwizdak
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:35 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security

Well, (shrug!) what I said about the gloves was what I was told.   No 
worries!  Maybe they'll get "blind cooties" or something!  LOL!

When Landon gets patted down, he thinks it is playtime and he'll wag and 
wiggle and have a great time with the nice person who is giving him 
attention!  When I fly, I've lucked out with security TSA folk who LOVE 
dogs. I realize that it can be different when you are a frequent flyer - not

once in a blue moon like me.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security


> unless they have a needle and accidently stick the security people with 
> one then no.
>
> even the gloves will not protect against that, for someone who has worked 
> in a laboratory and studied blood because I had to become a medical 
> insurance specialist and biller, you need to study anatomy and all systems

> of the body, and no that is not how you contact it, or the security people

> would wear hazmat suits instead of just gloves.
>
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>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Linda Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security
>
>
>> Albert,
>> HIV/AIDS can be spread by contact with certain body fluids - and I know 
>> not
>> casual contact. I knew about what was to become called AIDS before it had

>> a
>> name when it first hit the Gay community in SF back in the late 1970s.
>>
>> Yeah, no dinner,eh? LOL!
>>
>> Lyn and Landon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security
>>
>>
>> > Ok, hiv and aids are not able to be transferred by contact. The gloves 
>> > are
>> > worn out of proper hygiene any cavity searches would most certainly not

>> > be
>> > done by airport security and not without dinner and a proper
>> > introduction.,.
>> >
>> > Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> > CEO/Founder
>> > My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> > 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> > New York, New York  10004
>> > www.myblindspot.org
>> > PH: 917-553-0347
>> > Fax: 212-858-5759
>> > "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who

>> > is
>> > doing it."
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> > Behalf
>> > Of Linda Gwizdak
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:34 PM
>> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security
>> >
>> > I've noticed that all the airport personnel that pat us down and pat 
>> > our
>> > dogs down wear those latex gloves. I never thought they would do any
>> > cavity
>> > checks out on the line!  they wear the gloves to avoid coming in 
>> > contact
>> > with someone's bodily secretions - a practice beginning with dealing 
>> > with
>> > people with HIV/AIDS and other communicable diseases.
>> >
>> > Lyn and Landon
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> > To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:47 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Guide dogs and airport security
>> >
>> >
>> >> Some people are just bullies, and I think all industries have them. 
>> >> They
>> >> seek out whoever they feel they can beat up on like predators. Playing
>> >> nice isn't always a good idea. Know your rights and know theirs and 
>> >> all
>> >> will be well.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 7:25 PM
>> >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> >> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and airport security
>> >>
>> >> Wow! And I thought the pair that ended up deciding to start snapping 
>> >> on
>> >> latex gloves to do a cavity search of my guide dog pushed the 
>> >> limits...
>> >> Well, in that instance, the snapping of the latex and the absolute 
>> >> shock
>> >> that they could even *think* that sort of thing would be necessary
>> >> snapped
>> >> me out of my cooperative stupor. I didn't even have to stand up to 
>> >> look
>> >> the
>> >> super tall guy of the snapping gloves in the eye and give him The 
>> >> Look.
>> >> While brushing off the female guard who didn't want said suspcious
>> >> cavity
>> >> dog anywhere near her while she was still fussing over me looking for
>> >> whatever it was we must be trying to sneak past them.  /lol/
>> >>
>> >> I had always been of the belief that simply cooperating with airport
>> >> security was the course of reason ...  So that changed on the spot!
>> >>
>> >> Complete destruction of guide dog harness tops the cavity search
>> >> proposal,
>> >> though.  Good grief!
>> >>
>> >> Glad you took them on and won!
>> >>
>> >> Tami Smith-Kinney
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Passle Helminski
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:52 AM
>> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and airport security
>> >>
>> >> Just after 9/11 in the Philadelphia airport they took my guides
>> >> harness apart.  Stitching and all so I could not harness her up.  I
>> >> talked to my local chapter and they called are state president who
>> >> sued the airport and won.  Please contact our PA president James
>> >> Antonacci.
>> >>
>> >> Passle
>> >>
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