[nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recoveringafter pitbullattack

Wed Jul 28 13:49:25 UTC 2010

If a dog acts up, like barking or something then they should leave.
You can say no some many times or leave it.

If my Maxx asks up which is on a  very rare occasion, I will decide whether 
or not I should leave, not someone telling me to leave.

That is what I meant.

Again, my own opinion. I guess I am not as good as some others on here.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] EXTERNAL:Re: Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog 
recoveringafter pitbullattack

> Can't the raisers just ask? I don't understand why they need the rights.
>
> Also why do people insist on comparing dogs to kids? They are not the
> same. A kid may understand "If I act up, we go home" because they have a
> longer attention span and will eventually learn to reason. Dogs don't.
> There is the thought that "I act up, I leave, I'll just act up next time
> if I don't want to be someplace". Aren't we supposed to "work through"
> issues with our dogs? How does leaving if they act up accomplish this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [nagdu] Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recovering
> after pitbullattack
>
> I agree here, how can a puppy raiser or a trainer, get a dog used to
> certain
> places unless they have a right to be there, I realize that the puppy
> doesn't have the mannerism yet of an adult dog, but at the same time if
> the
> dog is acting up do the same thing a parent would do if there child
> acting
> up, leave the place.  I did that only once with my daughter, and she
> never
> did that again.
>
> Just some advice.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recovering after
> pitbullattack
>
>
> > A service animal or a service animal in training should qualify for
> any
> > and
> > all legislation, just my opinion tho.
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Tracy Carcione
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:36 AM
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recovering after
> pit
> > bullattack
> >
> > We're working on service dog protection in Jersey, but the process is
> > still in the early stages.  Not sure a puppy in training would
> qualify,
> > though.
> >
> > What a shame.  Poor puppy and raiser!
> > Tracy
> >
> > > Does NJ have laws for dogs that attack service animals? That poor
> puppy.
> > >
> > > Marsha
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> > > Behalf
> > > Of Ginger Kutsch
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:07 AM
> > > To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> > > Subject: [nagdu] Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recovering after pit
> > > bullattack
> > >
> > > Woodcliff Lake Seeing Eye dog recovering after pit bull attack
> > > Monday, July 26, 2010
> > > BY DENISA R. SUPERVILLE
> > > The Record, STAFF WRITER
> > > http://www.northjersey.com/news/072610_Woodcliff_Lake_seeing_eye_
> > > dog_recovering_after_pit_bull_attack.html?page=all
> > > WOODCLIFF LAKE, New Jersey - A 9-month-old German Shepherd being
> > > raised as a Seeing Eye dog was recovering at home Monday after
> > > being attacked by a pit bull.
> > > The dog, Dusty, had to undergo four hours of surgery at the Park
> > > Ridge Animal Hospital on Friday to repair lacerations that
> > > extended from his ear down his neck, said Roger Woodhour, Dusty's
> > > foster parent.
> > > Woodhour lost the tip of his right hand middle finger in the
> > > attack.
> > > Four of Dusty's teeth that were damaged during the attack had to
> > > be extracted, Woodhour said.
> > > Michelle Barlak, a spokeswoman for the Morristown-based The
> > > Seeing Eye Inc., said the attack has ended Dusty's chance at
> > > becoming a Seeing Eye dog.
> > > "Unfortunately, Dusty will never make it as a Seeing Eye dog even
> > > if he recovers, because he will not be able to overcome the
> > > psychological damage," Barlak wrote in an e-mail.
> > > The organization breeds, raises and trains dogs to guide people
> > > who are visually impaired in the U.S. and Canada.
> > > The attack occurred at around 8:45 a.m. on Friday, on Arcadia
> > > Road, about a block from Woodhour's home, he said.
> > > Woodhour said was returning from his daily walk of
> > > three-to-four-miles with two dogs - Dusty and a 5-year-old German
> > > Shepherd named Luke - when the pit bull charged out of a
> > > Woodcliff Avenue house.
> > > According to a police report of the incident, Kristine B.
> > > Heinemann left the house to put some items in a vehicle, which
> > > was parked in the driveway. The pit bull, a 2-year-old named
> > > Mason, got out through a door that apparently was ajar.
> > > Mason allegedly ran toward the two dogs and started attacking
> > > Dusty, the smaller of the two, the report said.
> > > "She was yelling at it to stop, but he was focused on one thing,
> > > and the one thing was on attacking one or possibly two of the
> > > dogs," Woodhour said.
> > > The pit bull allegedly grabbed onto Woodhour's hand as he tried
> > > to free Dusty, knocking Woodhour onto the lawn, according to
> > > Woodhour and the report.
> > > Contractors working on a nearby house ran to assist. One
> > > contractor ran to assist Woodhour, hitting the pit bull in the
> > > head with a hammer he was holding in an effort to free Woodhour's
> > > hand, the report said.
> > > Mason finally let go of Woodhour's hand. Woodhour was taken to
> > > Hackensack University Medical Center.
> > > Woodhour's wife, Sheila, took Dusty to the Park Ridge Animal
> > > Hospital, Woodhour said.
> > > In addition to the injuries to his neck, Dusty sustained injuries
> > > to the leg and head, the report said.
> > > Heinemann was issued summonses for violating borough ordinances
> > > for failing to keep her dog on a leash and for a dog running at
> > > large. She is to appear in Municipal Court on August 19. On
> > > Monday, she said had no comment.
> > > Mason, the pit bull, was quarantined at home, said Carol Tyler,
> > > the owner and manager of Tyco Animal Control. He was not injured
> > > in the attack, she said.
> > > Dusty is the 26th puppy the Woodhours are raising for the Seeing
> > > Eye Inc. They have been doing so since 1991.
> > > James Kutsch, president of Seeing Eye Inc., said it's possible,
> > > though unlikely, that Dusty could still make it as a Seeing Eye
> > > dog.
> > > If Dusty does not succeed as a Seeing Eye dog, the Woodhours will
> > > be offered the opportunity to adopt him, Kutsch said. He could
> > > also be adopted by a member of the public.
> > > The Woodhours have already adopted two dogs that did not make it
> > > in the program.
> > > "We certainly would consider it," Woodhour said.
> > > E-mail: superville at northjersey.com
> > >
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