[nagdu] Critical blind people

Cathryn Bonnette cathrynisfinally at verizon.net
Sat Jul 31 23:57:25 UTC 2010


Hi Dan,

Just wanted to interject that you might have to do most of the customizing
with the "find" command. That said, I believe the school in Sylmar CA uses
it in their training for all guides even if the user has normal hearing.-
Cathryn

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From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Dan Weiner
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 7:29 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Critical blind people

Well, Rox, I give you a lot of credit.
I suppose I can understand people saying can you hear the fountain and all
that, but their reactions when I say that I hear it but I don't know where
it is t is can be rather tiring.
I'd say that's the most tiring thing for me about getting around myself,
that you can on such occasions feel rather alone, then my feet start hurting
from walking around trying to find something--lol.

We can continue this either on or off list, it's up to you.

I would be interested in your methods for achieving consistent "find"
command results.
My last doggie, Evan, got very great at it but I worked a lot on it until a
sort of light bulb went on in his head and he then just knew I needed this.

Results with the Carter Barter are mixed, but it's one day at a time and I
do love him.
I generally do think I would benefit from a dog who takes a lot of
initiative on things like this, but it does seem to me that guide dog
school  people don't really understand what my situation is.
All right, GEB and Leader have had both very good programs for deaf-blind
and they do understand that.
For someone with hearing limitations, however, no one seems to get it. It's
either all or nothing. Perhaps that's what partially sighted people go
through, the all or nothing generalizations, either "you see" or you don't,
with hearing either you ear or you don't, no in-between.
I'm not saying that people should automatically know what to do to help, I'm
saying people are judgmental, but we've already established that--smile.

If you know of people who do get it, schools, trainers, etc. let me know off
list or on as it's good to know this for the future.

An example, one way a guide dog helps is that, most blind people I know will
leave a meeting or room by hearing where the door is, people talking, etc.
That does absolutely nothing for me, even though I may hear them--smile.



Dan Dan the man and Carter Barter the dog



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