[nagdu] Urgently Needed Research

Gail deerskin at oct.net
Fri Jun 18 01:34:20 UTC 2010


I know. No one who was at those hearings liked what came out of those. We
were lucky, as it was, to retain the right to owner train...our of all the
dogs who were there, only 3 were service dogs. I was new enough to it all
that I didnt feel I could add anything as a speaker, so I was just there
with my first SD, Tagg. The other two SDs were supposedly 'professionally
trained', but both acted up like you wouldnt believe, yappy, jumpy, etc. I
was supprised that Tagg, as new as he was to the job, lay quiet and calm in
all the hoorah of dogs and people, even when one of the SD owners backed
over his forepaw with her powerchair. One of the lawmakers emailed me later,
telling me that it was the calmness of my boy that convinced him that owner
training could work...I had never guessed that was why he stopped to talk to
me after the hearings! I didnt know who he was, thought he was just one of
the people interested in the laws. 
 
Gail 
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message------- 
 
From: Marion Gwizdala 
Date: 6/17/2010 7:55:19 PM 
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research 
 
Wow! There sure is a lot of wasted space on this one! None of these 
Provisions concerning documentation of the service animal is enforceable! 
 
Fraternally yours, 
Marion 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gail" <deerskin at oct.net> 
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research 
 
 
> Kansas SD law doesnt require any special tack, but does require an ID 
> badge. 
> I had mine attatched to the harness with a caribiner, and I think it was 
> the 
> reason I never had any access problems. 
> 
> http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusksguidedog.htm39-1111 
> 
> 
> . Procedure for verification of person's right to be accompanied by 
> assistance dog or professional therapy dog 
> 
> (a) If a question arises as to whether an assistance dog qualifies under 
> this act to accompany a person with a disability in or upon any place set 
> forth in K.S.A. 39-1101, and amendments thereto, the person with a 
> disability may produce for the employee or person responsible for such 
> place 
> an identification card or letter conforming to the requirements of this 
> subsection. Upon production of such identification card or letter, the 
> assistance dog shall be allowed to accompany the person with a disability 
> in 
> or upon such place. 
> (1) If the assistance dog has been trained by a training facility, school 
> or 
> trainer, the identification card or letter shall be provided by the 
> training 
> facility, school or trainer that trained the dog and shall contain the 
> following information: (A) The legal name of the dog's user; (B) the name,

> address and telephone number of the facility, school or trainer who 
> trained 
> the dog; (C) whether the dog is designated as a guide, hearing assistance 
> or 
> service dog; and (D) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the dog

> user and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital photographic 
> likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the picture or digital

> photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the letter or 
> be 
> affixed to the letter. 
> 
> (2) If the assistance dog has been trained by the person using the dog, 
> the 
> identification card or letter shall contain the following information: (A)

> The legal name of the dog's user; (B) the dog user's address; (C) a 
> statement that the dog has been trained to mitigate the dog user's 
> disability; and (D) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the dog 
> user and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital photographic 
> likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the picture or digital

> photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the letter or 
> be 
> affixed to the letter. 
> 
> (b) If a question arises as to whether a dog handler is qualified, or 
> whether the dog accompanying the handler is qualified as a professional 
> therapy dog, to enter in or upon the places set forth in K.S.A. 39-1110, 
> and 
> amendments thereto, an employee or person responsible for such places may 
> request, and the qualified handler shall produce, an identification card 
> or 
> letter, provided by the training facility, school or trainer who trained 
> the 
> dog. Such card or letter shall contain the following information: (1) The 
> legal name of the qualified dog handler; (2) the name, address and 
> telephone 
> number of the facility, school or trainer who trained the dog; (3) 
> information documenting that the dog is trained to provide therapeutic 
> supports; and (4) a picture or digital photographic likeness of the 
> qualified handler and the dog. If a card is used, the picture or digital 
> photographic likeness shall be on the card. If a letter is used, the 
> picture 
> or digital photographic likeness shall either be printed as a part of the 
> letter or be affixed to the letter. 
> 
> (c) If a question arises as to whether an individual accompanied by a dog 
> is 
> a professional trainer, from a recognized training center, of an 
> assistance 
> dog, in order to enter in or upon a place set forth in K.S.A. 39-1101, and

> amendments thereto, an employee or person responsible for such place may 
> request, and the trainer shall produce, an identification card provided by

> the recognized training center containing the following information: (1) 
> The 
> legal name of the trainer; (2) the name of the training center; (3) the 
> address and telephone number of the training center; (4) the types of 
> functions for which dogs are trained by the center; and (5) a picture or 
> digital photographic likeness of the trainer. 
> 
> (d) An identification card or letter produced for inspection pursuant to 
> this section shall be promptly returned to the person with a disability, 
> the 
> qualified handler or the professional trainer after inspection. 
> 
> Hope this info is a useful addition to your list 
> 
> Gail 
> 
> -------Original Message------- 
> 
> From: Marion Gwizdala 
> Date: 6/17/2010 6:10:56 PM 
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research 
> 
> Julie, 
> Thanks for your willingness to help. Sherrill did some great research 
> And found that 38 states provide criminal remedies for violating our civil

> Rights. We also found some very interesting language concerning such 
> details 
> 
> As the color of the leash and harness for a "certified" guide dog! We will

> Be calling on members to help us compile the actual texts of the statutes 
> so 
> 
> We can work on creating parity between state and federal laws. As soon as 
> I 
> Have a resolution to share with the list, I will send it out! 
> 
> Fraternally yours, 
> Marion Gwizdala 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie J" <julielj at windstream.net> 
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:27 PM 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research 
> 
> 
>> Marion, 
>> 
>> I can help. Do you have a list of states that you specifically need info 
>> on? I would be willing to look up as many as I can. If we split it up 
>> and several of us take 5 or so, it shouldn't be a problem to get all the 
>> info you need. 
>> 
>> Julie 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net> 
>> To: "FLAGDU List" <FLAGDU at NFBNET.ORG>; "NAGDU List" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; 
>> <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:40 AM 
>> Subject: [nagdu] Urgently Needed Research 
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear All, 
>>> I am writing a resolution to be presented to our national convention 
>>> concerning bringing state laws into parity with the ADA and 
>>> criminalizing 
> 
>>> the denial of access to places of public accommodation. The deadline for

>>> the resolution is tomorrow (friday, June 18) at 5:00 pm.. 
>>> I am looking for someone who can do some quick research for me 
>>> concerning how many states have criminal penalties for denial of access?

>>> Here's what I need to know: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Which states have criminal statutes/penalties for denial of access? 
>>> (If it is possible to get both the total number and the specific state, 
>>> that would be great! If this is too time consuming, I need to know if at

>>> least 26 states have such remedies!) 
>>> 
>>> 2. where did you get the information? Please give as much information as

>>> possible, preferrably in APA style. If you don't know what that is, just

>>> give me what you can about where the information came from. 
>>> 
>>> Please send the information to me directly to 
>>> 
>>> Blind411 at Verizon.net 
>>> 
>>> Fraternaly yours, 
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President 
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>> National Federation of the Blind 
>>> 813-598-7161 
>>> Blind411 at Verizon.net 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I appreciate whatever information you can find to help me wrap up this 
>>> resolution. Once it is finished, I will send it to the lists for 
>>> comments 
> 
>>> and to the Board for their approval. 
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President 
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>> National Federation of the Blind 
>>> 813-598-7161 
>>> President at NFB-NAGDU.ORG 
>>> HTTP://NFB-NAGDU.ORG 
>>> _______________________________________________ 
>>> nagdu mailing list 
>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org 
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org 
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> nagdu: 
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet 
> org/julielj%40windstream.net 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> nagdu mailing list 
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org 
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org 
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nagdu: 
>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon

> net 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> nagdu mailing list 
> nagdu at nfbnet.org 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org 
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nagdu: 
> 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/deerskin%40oct.net 
> 
> _______________________________________________ 
> nagdu mailing list 
> nagdu at nfbnet.org 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org 
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nagdu: 
> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/blind411%40verizon
net 
 
 
_______________________________________________ 
nagdu mailing list 
nagdu at nfbnet.org 
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org 
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nagdu:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/deerskin%40oct.net




More information about the NAGDU mailing list