[nagdu] website still not working?

Sun Jun 20 01:36:39 UTC 2010

When do we think that the NAGDU website will be up and running.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tamara Smith-Kinney" <tamara.8024 at comcast.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] waiting time?

> Gail,
>
> Having ended up doing my own O&M training, except for a very brief bit of
> instruction before I really needed the cane full time, I would recommend
> *not* blocking your usable vision in the beginning when you are out on 
> your
> own, except for in settings you know for certain are safe for practice.
> Once your listening skils are kicking in and you're beginning to  be able 
> to
> process your environment pretty accurately without using your vision, then
> at some point you will probably need to go in sleep shade or blocked 
> glasses
> or something like that.
>
> Then again, when you're teaching yourself O&M because you've got a life 
> and
> need to keep going, you can't always pick and choose where and how you
> practice.  /grin/  I ended up practicing by finding opportunities to do so
> on my way through my real life because I didn't really have time an energy
> left over to do things more formally.  I was, at least, able to avoid 
> nasty
> street crossings, even though it meant taking cabs to places I would
> otherwise have simply walked to, since there was no public transit where I
> lived...  The spouse could drive but was a problem.  Sigh.  Now he's my 
> ex,
> and I live where there's transit.  Well, I did move out towards the 
> boonies
> a bit and now have an unsafe main road to deal with, but my roomie is 
> really
> great about ensuring that I am able to get what I need and get things done
> using his car.  The only downside is that I have to make special plans to
> give my dog meaningful work sometimes.  /smile/
>
> Anyway, I don't know if any of that is helpful.  I've heard of one other
> person recently who learned the cane on her own.  As states continue to 
> cut
> services to cut budgets, there will be more of us.  I didn't hear about 
> the
> NFB centers until after I joined this list when Mitzi was a pup, and I 
> never
> did manage to talk my state agency into paying for me to go there.  By 
> that
> time, I had developed good skills anyway, so my situation with O&M wasn't
> dire.  Still, as much as I think it would have been a great thing to to
> there earlier on in my endstage vision loss, I can't imagine where I would
> have pulled up nine months to spend there.  That life thing again, and the
> responsibilities that go with it.
>
> Hang in there, and keep us posted on how it goes with the applications and
> the eye test.  I've gotten the "why do you want to be blind?" business
> before, but never from an eye doctor.  Also the tale of some other 
> person's
> accomplishments and why can't I be more like that guy?  Um....  What I end
> up wondering about then is why are they getting *paid* -- usually by my
> taxes -- to come up with that sort of crap to avoid taking responsibility
> for doing what they're paid to do.  But that's me.  /smile/
>
> Okay, now I'd better get going to give my dog some real work and me some
> real exercise.
>
> Tami Smith-Kinney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Gail
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] waiting time?
>
> I wasnt nervous while I have had my dogs....I AM nervous when I have to
> trust my son! He has gone out with me when I was trying to be mobile on my
> scooter, and when I had asked him to check about a car I thought I could
> hear, but not see, he missed it, and I almost got smeared. Before that, I
> had never been anything but confident in my dog's guiding and care...thats
> why I'm nervous as a hurt cat while on my own. I can say with full
> confidence if an examiner does the Juno test on me, I'll pass that well!
>
> I'm sitting here, checking my mail, before going out with my cane for the
> first time. I do wear Cocoon sunglasses, but I can still see though them.
> Should I be trying to block the inside, to make them opaque, like sleep
> shades, even though I'm trying to train on my own?
>
>
> Gail
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message------- 
>
> From: Linda Gwizdak
> Date: 6/16/2010 12:33:01 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] waiting time?
>
> Hi Gail,
> I think the school is more interested in the fact you can travel
> Independently - with or without formal O&M training. I do think it would 
> be
> A great idea to get O&M under blindfold before getting your dog. I did
> This and foound it VERY helpful even though I had traveled for years 
> before
> Formal O&M myself with my first dog.
>
> Did you say you had some trouble with some mobility like crossing big
> Streets? Remember, you MUST be confident in all aspects of mobility before
> Getting a dog. If you have nervousness in any aspect of travelling, you 
> will
>
> Transmit that nervousness to the dog and that will really have a negative
> Impact on how you and your dog work together.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gail" <deerskin at oct.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] waiting time?
>
>
> > I'll do that as soon as that test is done this week, and get going on my
> > own
> > personal training tomorrow (too hot now today). I've found some vids on
> > YouTube on O&M, though not on how to cross big streets. The rest seems 
> > to
> > be
> > pretty much logical, or things I've already been doing with my crutch. 
> > I'm
>
> > just concerned that GDB might be sticky about my not having had formal
> > training. But for all the searching I've done in our area (NE Kansas),
> > there
> > doesnt seem to be anyone at all who does this. No wonder I've not seen
> > anyone out with a cane but a handful of times in years.
> >
> >
> > Gail
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message------- 
> >
> > From: Julie McGinnity
> > Date: 06/15/10 16:01:11
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] waiting time?
> >
> > Hi Gail. I applied, and 3 months later I was able to go to the school
> > To get my dog. I only applied to 2 schools, and they were both very
> > Quick about getting back to me. I would definitely suggest calling
> > The addmissions departments of each school to which you applied. That
> > Way you can really tell if they are going to talk to you. They should
> > Answer all your questions over the phone even before you send in an
> > Application. I don't know anything about GDB though. Good luck.
> > Hope you find the perfect school for you.
> >
> > Julie and Brie
> >
> > On 6/15/10, Jessica Pitzer <rolosgirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I have called, emailed, etc. Etc. Etc.
> >> GDA keeps just, not knowing, its yeah we think we have a dog, and then
> >> blam, oh no, not one in this class.
> >> GDB, I'm just waiting on the call from teh home interviewere but their
> >> earliest class dates are September.
> >> GDDI, wel.. They say 2 years.. I'm not able to wait that long.
> >> GDF, keeps losing my video and not knowing what is what so I'm
> >> honestly not sure their.
> >> Leader, I've got to send in a release still and fax my medical and
> >> then they ahve to do 6 refs and the home interview
> >> pilot, has all info and is my last choice, and they even said it'd be
> >> a while they'd get back to me
> >> seeing eye, just waiting on the call for the home interview BTU they
> >> also aren't sure what they ahve and don't have, and are still trying
> >> to do references.
> >> So far, GDB seems most on top of it which kind of saddens me as GDA
> >> and GDF were my top picks in schools *sighs* guess we don't always get
> >> what we want sometimes.
> >>
> >> On 6/15/10, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
> >>> Hi Jessica.
> >>> If I were you, I'd follow up my applications with an email or a phone
> >>> call. Ask the Admissions office what's going on.
> >>>
> >>> I'd think the wait for GDB would be the shortest, because they have 2
> >>> campusses and they have short classes.
> >>> Tracy
> >>>
> >>>> So, I've applied to 7 different schools.
> >>>> I've had apps into some for as long as 6 months and others are more
> >>>> recent.
> >>>> It just seems to be taking forever and that's probably because of the
> >>>> 6 month school heh.
> >>>> I'm just wondering what folks wait times have been like and if people
> >>>> know anything that can speed it up.
> >>>> I've been without a dog for 8 months now and it sucks big time.
> >>>> I have apps into GDA, GDB, GDDI, GDF, leader, pilot, and seeing eye.
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Jessica
> >>>>
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> > -- 
> > Julie McG
> > Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
> > Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
> > Eyes for the Blind
> >
> > "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
> > everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
> > life."
> > John 3:16
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