[nagdu] pupp sitters

Wed Jun 23 18:00:07 UTC 2010

The thing is that in order to properly use a cane you are going to make 
contact with things.  If the cane never touches anything, then I don't think 
it would be of much use.

Some dogs have a harder time with lots of canes.  They are moving objects 
that change direction.  If a dog hasn't much experience with lots of canes I 
can see how they could find it difficult to negotiate that situation.

When I took Belle to convention in 2006, I never felt like there was no 
consideration of guide dogs or that her wellbeing was in jeopardy by canes. 
Of course there are people who are very adept with their cane and there are 
those who lack any level of finesse.  Likewise there are guide dog users who 
are more skilled and those who just aren't.  It is what it is and I feel 
it's in very poor taste to judge others harshly based on their aptitude with 
O&M skills.

We've all made mistakes both with cane and dog.  For that matter even the 
sighted folks bump into each other on occasion.  -----  It happens, and more 
so in large groups of people.  I think we need to just take a deep breath 
and realize that it's not a slight to us because we choose to use a guide 
dog.

JMHO
Julie

Original Message ----- 
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pupp sitters

> Katherine,
>
> You see that is why I asked about  motivations for not bringing a guide. I
> sense that some at convention give little notice or appreciation for those
> of us who use guides rather then canes. I for one would rather choose to
> leave my dog rather then see it as the only option was less then optimal. 
> I
> would wonder about cane skills and such if you were being hit this way or
> that by others professing the superiority of a cane over a dog. I never 
> hit
> someone with my dog I can tell you that.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Cathryn Bonnette
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:39 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] pupp sitters
>
> Marsha,
>
> The first convention I attended, probably the last, was last summer. My
> little 50 lb. Shepherd, Abby, was so freaked by the long lines of people
> spanning the width of hall or walkways and waving extra long canes in lock
> step, that she refused to go one step forward unless my sighted assistant
> was in front of us to make a path without getting us killed. Even sitting
> down in the restaurant or various events I got hit in the shoulder and 
> upper
> body several times with canes. Abby couldn't fix that. I experienced the
> whole thing to be nerve wracking and most unpleasant. If I had known what
> the experience would be like for us, I would have left Abby with my vet,
> whom she adores.  Unless or until there is some cooperation between cane
> users and guide dog users so dogs and people won't be injured by careless
> people, I don't know if bringing any guide is wise. Cudos to you for doing
> what you believe is best for your partner, and the essential working
> relationship you need to protect!
>
> Cathryn (& Abby)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:48 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] pupp sitters
>
> Marsha,
>
> I too have to chime in to support your decision and admire you for making
> it. Sometimes it's just easier not to take the dog to some places, long or
> short term. An experienced dog will remember its job and with some 
> patience
> when you get back, the dog will go right back to its routine.
>
> I think I'd rather see people make the decision to leave a dog than to be
> totally stressed, and hence have a totally stressed dog, at conventions or
> other events. In the end though it's a very personal choice. Asking what
> motivates some people to make it though can help others to do the same at
> other times.
>
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] pupp sitters
>
> Emma is an experienced guide, has traveled with me to several conventions,
> Washington seminars, and other events. But the convention is stressful on
> me, much less Emma. I frankly do not wish to subject her to that sort of
> stress, if need be. It is not that she can't handle the stress, but I 
> choose
> for her not too. The puppy sitter I will be leaving her at, has other 
> pups,
> who were to be guides but because of health reasons can't. Emma will have 
> a
> great time, and be able to relax and have fun playing.
>
> Sorry if anyone thinks that is strange or horrible of me. But this is my
> choice, and my guide.
>
> marsha
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Albert J Rizzi
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:16 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] pupp sitters
>
> Why are you not taking your guide with you?
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Marsha Drenth
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:08 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] pupp sitters
>
> Hello listers,
>
>
>
> In a little over a week, my guide will be staying with a pup sitter while 
> I
> attend the national convention. The pup sitter is a former sitter for the
> school I received my pup from. She will be watching Emma for 10 days. So
> here is my question, What is the going rate for kenneling a pup? Or for 
> pup
> sitters? I have explained to her that I am by no means rich, but would 
> like
> to pay her something. Kenneling is very expensive, so I know it has to be
> way under that. Any ideas please let me know. If you feel more comfortable
> emailing me off list, please do at marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> marsha
>
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