[nagdu] Re Resolution concerning Dog Guides

Linda Gwizdak linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Wed Jun 30 18:19:16 UTC 2010


I haven't a clue on how to post to YouTube!  I have put it on a DVD amongst 
other stuff I have.  But yeah, it would be a funny thing to post there! LOL! 
I've only seen some YouTube stuff if someone sent me a link to something 
they posted or wanted me to see - like some of our Soo Bahk Do students 
before I joined.  I'm not really very savvy when it comes to stuff like 
that - YouTube, Facebook, etc.

Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Re Resolution concerning Dog Guides


> Lyn, that video needs to be on Youtube! Do post!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:16 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Re Resolution concerning Dog Guides
>
> Hi Elizabeth,
> There is no risk of any infections being transmitted between your dog
> and
> the zoo animals - that's just a bunch of hoohy.  If an animal is sick,
> the
> zoo puts it either in the infirmery or in the animal's "bedroom" to
> recuperate.  If your dog is ill, you shouldn't bring it to the zoo.
>
> Some dogs do well in the zoo envirnment and others don't do so well.
> That's
> a matter of you knowing your own dog.  All my dogs that I've brought to
> the
> zoo did absolutely fine there.  The zoo animals may or may not react
> adversly.  If an animal seems to be getting really upset at your dog's
> presence, move on.  The one's I've seen being more upset are some of the
> big
> cats and some monkeys. Most animals show curiosity because the dog is
> something new to them. I think if more people brought their service dogs
> to
> the zoo, the animals would get a bit more used to their presence as they
> had
> to get used to the human presence that come and gawk at them!
>
> As far as "problem child" dogs, the zoo staff are all very aware when a
> service dog is on the premesis. If any dog gets out of control or is
> causing
> any problem, the zoo staff will ask them to leave.   When I go and take
> Landon, I have to check in at the customer service desk and sign a sheet
>
> that I can't sue them is something happens.  they then radio the group
> of
> staff that wander the grounds that a service dog is present and they
> observe
> from afar.  they just monitor the situation as they monitor the actions
> of
> all visitors so that everyone has a nice time and the animals aren't
> being
> harassed.
>
> If your dog doesn't like the envirment, by all means, don't take your
> dog.
> Many zoos now have a private kennel for service dogs if you want to do
> that.
> I have gone to the zoo and left my dog at home, used the kennel, or
> broought
> him along - all as I felt like doing at the time.  The last time I went
> to
> our zoo, I left Landon in the kennel because I wanted to visit the
> aviary
> where the dog isn't allowed. In the aviaries, the birds are all free and
>
> they are on the ground walking, flying around or perched nearby.   they
> could land on you if they chose.  I think they could bring out the dog's
>
> chase instinct - many more birds around than we generally find on our
> streets in the city.
>
> So, see how your dog react and make your own decision on what you do.
> Have
> fun.
>
> Oh, a cute story:  One of the times I went to the zoo with my friend and
> I
> had Landon with me, we stopped at a glass enclosure with a grooup of
> macaques.  the big male was besides himself with curiosity over this
> strange
> red hairy thing that didn't look like the kids that were all gawking at
> them
> at the time.  He was sooooo curious! My friend said he could see the
> wheels
> turning in the animal's brain - WTF iis THAT!!!!   He walked around and
> came
> up close to the glass and made a funny lip smacking sound with his
> mouth.
> Landon was probably wondering the same thing - what's THAT!! to the
> macaque.
> My friend used to work in the zoo so he knew that Landon's presence
> wasn't
> upsetting the macaque it was just very curious.   this went on for
> awhile
> and then the macaque grew bored and went off to do something else and we
>
> moved on. I got all this on my video.
>
> Anyway, have fun.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elizabeth Rene" <emrene at earthlink.net>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:36 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Re Resolution concerning Dog Guides
>
>
>> Does the ADA specifically require that service animals be admitted to
>> zoos?
>>
>> I have always been taught at guide dog school that it is potentially
>> traumatic to a guide dog to be taken inside a zoo, and potentially
>> distressing to the captive animals  there, too, because of pheromone
> cues
>> not recognizable by humans, there being too many natural predators in
> one
>> place.
>>
>> I don't know where the zoological or veterinary or humane association
>> communities  stand on this issue, but I'm surprised that guide dog
> access
>> to zoos found its way into the statutory language of the ADA.
>>
>> Is denial of access to zoos specifically prohibited, or is denial of
> zoo
>> access to service animals simply not exempted from the bar against
>> discrimination re public accommodations?
>>
>> Guide dog schools teach their graduates to use good judgment for the
>> protection of their dogs.  But who's to say what other service animal
>> training programs do, or whether every service dog handler gives
> priority
>> to his or her dog's well-being?
>>
>> I support the scope and intent of the resolution, but I wouldn't want
> to
>> see criminalized a reasonable restriction on service dog access
> grounded
>> on a legitimate interest in the animal's safety.
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
>>
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