[nagdu] APS was White Cane laws
cheryl echevarria
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Thu Mar 25 17:27:20 UTC 2010
Oh yes very close in fact here are the bills and if we can all call our senators and assembly people in any state you are in and tell them to get it out of committee and onto the floor to be passed it will get through.
H.R. 3834 and S. 2559
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----- Original Message -----
From: Julie J<mailto:julielj at windstream.net>
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] APS was White Cane laws
Check out
http://www.nfb.org<http://www.nfb.org/>
I'm sure there will be links to read about the quiet car initiative.
and last I heard it was very close to having the support it needs to pass.
>From my perspective it seems that many politicians and the public are in
support, but the main opposition has come from the car manufacturers.
Julie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] APS was White Cane laws
> That is an effective option for sure. but, truthfully, I cannot see the
> general public getting behind that one. Is there someplace I could go to
> find more information on this proposal so I could learn more about the
> efforts?
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Julie J
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:02 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] APS was White Cane laws
>
> Albert,
>
> NFB is working diligently to pass legislation that would require that
> hybrid
>
> cars have some sort of sound even when they are operating at lower speeds.
>
> Personally, I think this will be more effective than APS. If I can hear
> the
>
> car no matter where it is I will be able to take appropriate action in a
> parking lot, side street, country road or where ever.
>
> JMHO
> Julie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] White Cane laws
>
>
>> Now in reaction to the hybrid cars which are environmentally friendly and
>> very quiet, why are we not mobilizing the forces to require that urban
>> planners and departments of roads or transportation or what ever
>> department
>> it is that regulates crossing signs start using audible crossing signs as
>> is
>> done in many European cities. I hear tell of how the infrastructure is to
>> old and to costly to work with, yet I would think that Paris and London
>> are
>> much older cities then any of ours and they some how were able to bridge
>> that gap. Would be another great focus of our community to work together
>> to
>> effect if you ask me.
>>
>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> CEO/Founder
>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>> New York, New York 10004
>> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>> PH: 917-553-0347
>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
>> is
>> doing it."
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Jewel S.
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:33 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] White Cane laws
>>
>> Here, here!
>>
>> I have been hit by a car, albeit a very slow moving car, so I was not
>> injured very much at all. The car was backing out of a parking spot
>> after telling me to go ahead. He didn't look where he was going, and
>> his bumper struck me before I knew what was going on. I beat the trunk
>> with my cane and shouted at him, trying to scuttle out of the way (not
>> easy for me), but he would not stop. I would have fallen if someone
>> hadn't run up and caught me and another man knocked on the driver's
>> window, the idiot. I told them to get the license plate number, but
>> they did not. I was very upset. This was also a quiet car.
>>
>> The Quiet Car Bill is something I have been watching very closely. It
>> is almost passed through to law. It is getting sooo close. When it
>> does pass, the government will be required to do a survery and figure
>> out a way for quiet cars to produce the sound needed by pedestrians.
>>
>> I am very sorry about the loss of your guide dog, friend, and the
>> injury of your other friend. Your story is one of the many very real
>> reasons why the White Cane Laws were ut in place in the first place,
>> to save lives.
>>
>> How many lives must be taken before the laws are enforced?
>> ~Jewel
>>
>> On 3/24/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>> wrote:
>>> Here here!
>>>
>>> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>>> CEO/Founder
>>> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>>> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>>> New York, New York 10004
>>> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>>> PH: 917-553-0347
>>> Fax: 212-858-5759
>>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
>>> is
>>> doing it."
>>>
>>>
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tamara Smith-Kinney
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:07 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] White Cane laws
>>>
>>> Tracy,
>>>
>>> I'm so sorry! I didn't know that had happened to you. It must have
>>> been
>>> awful for a long, long time after the fact. And I'm sure whatever
>> recourse
>>> you received was not worth the loss. I'm glad you're well and still
>> living
>>> your life.
>>>
>>> While I am glad the white cane laws and pedestrian laws underlying them
>>> do
>>> give me some added rights and protections. Greater awareness and
>>> greater
>>> enforcement does and will give us better odds of traveling safely
>>> through
>>> our daily lives.
>>>
>>> There will still be those people who disengage brain before turning key,
>> but
>>> the more drivers who are aware of the law, of their responsibilities as
>>> drivers, and of the consequences of their not taking their
>> responsibilities
>>> seriously when they're behind the wheel, the better off we'll all be.
>>>
>>> Tami Smith-Kinney
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Tracy Carcione
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:23 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [nagdu] White Cane laws
>>>
>>> Could we possibly get back to discussing better enforcement of White
>>> Cane
>>> laws, and drop all the sniping? Or is it the concensus that the White
>>> Cane laws are outmoded, and we should just let them drop and ignore
>>> them?
>>> I'm not asking for someone else to be responsible for my safety, but I
>>> am
>>> asking that the drivers take their share of responsibility. They are
>>> the
>>> ones in charge of the vehicle that is a lot faster and heavier than I
>>> am.
>>> I am especially concerned with new quieter cars becoming more common.
>>> I've lost count of the times my dog has stopped short, then I've heard
>>> the
>>> car whizzing by in front of us.
>>>
>>> I personally know 3 people who've been hit. One was crossing with the
>>> light when a bus turned on top of her, and she was killed. One was
>>> crossing a quiet street, when some old fool came speeding around a blind
>>> corner and hit her. Now she has to use a wheelchair. And one was me,
>>> trying to cross a street to get home during an ice storm. There wasn't
>>> enough traffic, and there wasn't anyone around to ask, and I probably
>>> misjudged the traffic light. My dog was killed.
>>>
>>> Two of these accidents could have been avoided, if the driver were
>>> paying
>>> propper attention. We have laws on the books that say they should be
>>> particularly careful when a blind pedestrian is in the street. I'd like
>>> to see greater awareness of those laws. It doesn't seem so much to ask,
>>> to save a life.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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