[nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick street
Michelle
m-johnson at bigpond.com
Sun Mar 28 08:47:04 UTC 2010
I've been patient many a time and still I get caught out sometimes. If I'm
being totaly responsible for my own safety, then I'm afraid it's the
driver's fault, unless you could prove that I was being irrisponsible
towards the drivers. Remember that the persons being affected are totally
blind and/or visually impaired. So it's more likely that the people are
being responsible for themselves. Otherwise, there really needs to be proof
that the blind/visually impaired person wasin't being responsible on the
road.
Michelle
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From: "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick street
> But as David inferred, which is better, being dead and right or patient,
> safe and alive.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
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> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of cheryl echevarria
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
> In other words, you need to have a good lawyer to represent you.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Albert J Rizzi<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
>
> Yes but the law as written does not include such considerations that is
> up
> to the interpretation and presentation of the case in court. I am just
> wanting to be clear that your interpretation though in the best
> interests
> of our peers, is just an interpretation of the law and not a factual
> component of the law. we could as litigators and theorists provide any
> number of instances where someone might contribute to the problem, but in
> that instance where a blind pedestrian steps off a curb, in good
> conscience
> following said laws and crossing at the proper intersection in the proper
> cross walk and is struck down by a driver not yielding the right of way
> as
> required by law, can you tell me where one might find a possible
> contribution to the accident on the part of the pedestrian?
>
>
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>
> CEO/Founder
>
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>
> New York, New York 10004
>
> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>
> PH: 917-553-0347
>
> Fax: 212-858-5759
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
> is
> doing it."
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> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of David Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:52 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
>
>
> Albert, statutes generally do not cite case law. Contributory negligence
> is
> a
>
> concept that is most often a child of case law (although not always). It
> is
>
> often a figurative reference as well, in that it often governs the
> thought
>
> processes of triers of fact. I think that Marion's and my 'reductio ad
>
> absurdum' examples pretty well explain how a blind person can be
> contributorily
>
> negligent both in law in some jurisdictions and in fact in virtually all
> of
>
> them. It is generally what we think of as 'common sense'. It would,
> for
>
> example, be hard to see how a blind person carrying a cane who knowingly
> crosses
>
> a busy street while listening to loud rock music on an Ipod would not be
>
> negligently contributing to his or her own injuries. A trier of fact,
>
> regardless of what statutes are in place, is going to be straining to
> visit
>
> some, if not all, responsibility for any resulting injury upon that
> pedestrian.
>
> A person who did not stop for the white cane in that circumstance would
> likely
>
> escape both criminal and tort liability, unless he or she had also run a
> red
>
> light at a cross walk. Even then, the Ipod listening cane-carrier, could
> be
>
> apportioned some blame in tort litigation. In negligence law one is
> generally
>
> required to exercise due care even when another is not. Stepping off the
> curb
>
> with a white can is not a free pass regardless of how the statute reads.
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of
>
> Albert J Rizzi
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:17 AM
>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
>
>
> I have done that previously. Would you please provide verbiage wherein it
>
> specifically and clearly states as you have here, that the blind person
> can
> be
>
> contributory negligent. I sent Wisconsin , Florida and I think Wyoming
> statutes.
>
> Would like to see your references to see how I might be able to sway my
> thoughts
>
> and opinions on the subject at hand.
>
>
>
>
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>
> CEO/Founder
>
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>
> New York, New York 10004
>
> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>
> PH: 917-553-0347
>
> Fax: 212-858-5759
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
> is
> doing
>
> it."
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> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:46 AM
>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
>
>
> Albert,
>
> Would you please send us the texts of at least two of these statutes
> to
>
> which you rfer?
>
>
>
> Fraternally yours,
>
> Marion
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Albert J Rizzi"
> <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>
>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:25 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
> street
>
>
>
>
>
> > With all do respect I read the law a little differently. The ones I
> sent,
>
> > legally preclude any responsibility for said accident on anyone other
>
> > then
>
> > the sighted driver. That is not to say that the blind person could have
>
> > contributed to the matter due to any number of reasons, but the law as
> I
>
> > interpret it does not at all consider contribution on the part of the
>
> > blind
>
> > pedestrian to the problem. Onus is on the driver or so it seems to me.
>
> >
>
> > Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>
> > CEO/Founder
>
> > My Blind Spot, Inc.
>
> > 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>
> > New York, New York 10004
>
> > www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>
> > PH: 917-553-0347
>
> > Fax: 212-858-5759
>
> > "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
> is
>
> > doing it."
>
> >
>
> >
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> > From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>
> > Of Marion Gwizdala
>
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:01 PM
>
> > To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
>
> > street
>
> >
>
> > Albert,
>
> > This law serves to not assign contributory megligence only based
> upon
>
> > blindness. In other words, an attorney cannot argue that a person's
>
> > blindness was a contribitor the a crash. It does not, however, preclude
>
> > assigning contributory negligence if it can be shown that the blind
> person
>
> > was negligent by not using due caution. If a blind person steps out in
>
> > front
>
> >
>
> > of a moving vehicle that cannot be stopped , it does not excuse such
>
> > behavior.
>
> >
>
> > Fraternally yours,
>
> > Marion
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: "Albert J Rizzi"
> <albert at myblindspot.org<mailto:albert at myblindspot.org>>
>
> > To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>
> > <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
>
> > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 8:51 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
>
> > street
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> MARION, I AM NOT SURE THAT YOUR STATEMENT IS COMPLETELY CORRECT IN
> THIS
>
> >> REGARD. AFTER RESEARCH IT SEEMS THAT MANY STATES HAVE AMENDED THIS LAW
> TO
>
> >> PRECLUDE THE BLIND FROM BEING CONTRIBITORILY NEGLAGENT OR RESPONSIBLE
> IN
>
> >> SOME WAY FOR HAVING BEEN HIT. I HAVE FOUND THESE REFERENCES ONE OF
> WHICH
>
> >> I
>
> >> THINK IS FROM A SOUTHERN STATE AND THE OTHER IS WISCONSIN. SO IT SEEMS
> TO
>
> >> VARY FROM STATE TO STATE. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO FOLLOW THE LEAD OF
>
> >> WISCONSIN
>
> >> FOR SURE IF WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS TRUE IN YOUR STATE. WE SHOULD HAVE ONE
>
> >> CONSISTANT AND CONSTANT LAW FROM STATE TO STATE FOR THOSE OF us who
>
> >> travel
>
> >> across our country,
>
> >>
>
> >> PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION LAW
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> White Cane Law 752.52 Sec. 2.(1) A driver of a vehicle shall not
> approach
>
> >> a
>
> >> crosswalk..., or any other pedestrian crossing without taking all
>
> >> necessary
>
> >> precautions to avoid accident or injury to a blind pedestrian carrying
> a
>
> >> cane or using a guide dog.
>
> >> (2) A driver who approaches a crosswalk or any other pedestrian
> crossing
>
> >> without taking all necessary precautions to avoid accident or injury
> to
> a
>
> >> blind pedestrian carrying a cane or using a guide dog shall be liable
> in
>
> >> damages for any injuries caused the blind pedestrian...
>
> >> 752.53 Sec. 3. A person who violates section 2(1) is guilty of a
>
> >> misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or
> by
>
> >> a
>
> >> fine of not more than $100.00 or both.
>
> >>
>
> >> Then there is Wisconsin:
>
> >>
>
> >> Blind pedestrian on highway.
>
> >>
>
> >> 1) An operator of a vehicle shall stop the vehicle before approaching
>
> >> closer
>
> >> than 10 feet to a pedestrian who is carrying a cane or walking stick
>
> >> which
>
> >> is white in color or white trimmed with red and which is held in an
>
> >> extended
>
> >> or raised position or who is using a dog guide and shall take such
>
> >> precautions as may be necessary to avoid accident or injury to the
>
> >> pedestrian. The fact that the pedestrian may be violating any of the
> laws
>
> >> applicable to pedestrians does not relieve the operator of a vehicle
> from
>
> >> the duties imposed by this subsection.
>
> >>
>
> >> 2) Nothing in this section shall be construed to deprive any totally
> or
>
> >> partially blind person not carrying the white or the red and white
> cane
>
>
> >> or
>
> >> walking stick or not using a dog guide of the rights of other
> pedestrians
>
> >> crossing highways, nor shall the failure of such totally or partially
>
> >> blind
>
> >> pedestrian to carry such cane or walking stick or to use a dog guide
> be
>
> >> evidence of any negligence.
>
> >>
>
> >> 3) No person who is not totally or partially blind shall carry or use
> on
>
> >> any
>
> >> street, highway or other public place any cane or walking stick which
> is
>
> >> white in color, or white trimmed with red.
>
> >>
>
> >> Last Revised: February 22, 2010
>
> >>
>
> >> And then there is the Florida statute. No where does it lay claim to a
>
> >> blind
>
> >> person and their negligence, on the contrary, it goes as far as to
> assert
>
> >> that anywhere a blind person steps off a curb to cross a street puts
> the
>
> >> burden of responsibility solely in the lap of the driver.
>
> >>
>
> >> White Cane Law: 316.1301 Traffic regulations to assist blind persons
>
> >> (1) It is unlawful for any person, unless totally or partially blind
> or
>
> >> otherwise incapacitated, while on any public street or highway, to
> carry
>
> >> in
>
> >> a raised or extended position a cane or walking stick which is white
> in
>
> >> color or white tipped with red. A person who is convicted of a
> violation
>
> >> of
>
> >> this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree,
>
> >> punishable
>
> >> as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
>
> >>
>
> >> (2) Whenever a pedestrian is crossing, or attempting to cross, a
> public
>
> >> street or highway, guided by a dog guide or carrying in a raised or
>
> >> extended
>
> >> position a cane or walking stick which is white in color or white
> tipped
>
> >> with red, the driver of every vehicle approaching the intersection or
>
> >> place
>
> >> where the pedestrian is attempting to cross shall bring his or her
>
> >> vehicle
>
> >> to a full stop before arriving at such intersection or place of
> crossing
>
> >> and, before proceeding, shall take such precautions as may be
> necessary
>
>
> >> to
>
> >> avoid injuring such pedestrian. A person who is convicted of a
> violation
>
> >> of
>
> >> this subsection is guilty of a moving violation punishable as provided
> in
>
> >> chapter 318.
>
> >>
>
> >> (3) Nothing contained in this section shall be construed to deprive
> any
>
> >> totally or partially blind or otherwise incapacitated person not
> carrying
>
> >> such a cane or walking stick, or not being guided by a dog, of the
> rights
>
> >> and privileges conferred by law upon pedestrians crossing streets or
>
> >> highways. The failure of any such person to carry a cane or walking
> stick
>
> >> or
>
> >> to be guided by a dog shall not be considered comparative negligence,
> nor
>
> >> shall such failure be admissible as evidence in the trial of any civil
>
> >> action with regard to negligence.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> I would like to see the law you are referencing here in the hopes we
>
> >> could
>
> >> amend the one you are relying on, peace.
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>
> >> CEO/Founder
>
> >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>
> >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>
> >> New York, New York 10004
>
> >> www.myblindspot.org<http://www.myblindspot.org/>
>
> >> PH: 917-553-0347
>
> >> Fax: 212-858-5759
>
> >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
> who
>
>
> >> is
>
> >> doing it."
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
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> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>
> >> Behalf
>
> >> Of Marion Gwizdala
>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:34 AM
>
> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
>
> >> street
>
> >>
>
> >> Dan,
>
> >> One scenario in which a blind person could have been at fault in
> such
>
> >> a
>
> >> crash is if the blind person stepped out in front of the vehicle and
> the
>
> >> operator was unable to avoid the crash! The White Cane Law does not
> give
>
> >> us
>
> >> carte blanche to cross an intersection at any time nor absolve us from
>
> >> any
>
> >> responsibilities for our safe travel!
>
> >>
>
> >> Fraternally yours,
>
> >> Marion Gwizdala
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
>
> >> From: "Dan Weiner"
> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net<mailto:dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>>
>
> >> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
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> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org<mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>>
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> >> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:19 PM
>
> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington - Guide dog killed crossing Kennewick
>
> >> street
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >>> How exactly would the blind person be responsible in this accident,
> what
>
> >>> about our trusty White Cane Law.
>
> >>> The fact that no one complies with the law doesn't mean that lack of
>
> >>> compliance isn't a criminal act.
>
> >>>
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> >>> Dan W. and the Carter Dog
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