[nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

Tue Mar 30 12:35:26 UTC 2010

I think you are right though, it does appear to be a  warning and not a true
ats as discussed herein.

Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
CEO/Founder
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-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:14 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

Albert, is the Boulder thing an audible signal, or just a reminder to
pedestrians to use caution when crossing?  It's a bit unclear.  It seems
to say that they are warned to use caution crossing when they push the
walk button, which is not an APS.
Tracy

> I did some research too. In boulder, colorado  the costs are about 1k more
> then the lights as they are now used. See below. Prices must have come
> down
> a bit.
> Mr. Rizzi, we don't handle that sort of thing, but I Googled your query
> and
> came up with a town in Boulder, CO that had just installed what you're
> talking about. It was much less expensive - go to:
>
>
http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=744
> 0&Itemid=1206
>
> And here I've pasted the text, in case the link doesn't work for you:
>
>  Audible Crosswalk Sign
>
> The City of Boulder has installed an audible warning message at the
> crosswalkpedestrian crossing on Baseline Road, just east of Broadway. This
> crosswalk is the first in the city to combine the flashing pedestrian
> crossing signs with an audible message. When pedestrians push the
> crosswalk
> button, the audible message says, "Use caution when crossing." (mp3 Listen
> to the actual message) The city is testing the enhancement at one location
> and will evaluate the usefulness of the audible warning buttons before
> deciding whether to install buttons at addtional locations.
>
> The addition of the audible warning message is the result of a review of
> the
> existing 14 flashing pedestrian crossings in the City of Boulder to
> identify
> ways to improve safety and awareness for drivers and pedestrians at these
> crossing treatments.
>
> The audible message device, two audible warning buttons and the associated
> additional control circut adds about $1,000 ot the cost of a flashing
> pedestrian crossing sign.
>
> For more information on the new audible warning message, contact Joe
> Paulson
> at (303) 441-3266.
>
> Georgia Lambert, MTC Public Information/Outreach Technician
> 101 8th Street, Oakland, CA  94607
> 510-817-5787
>
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Steve Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:03 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> Just as a bit of clarification on the APS cost, I contacted our County's
> Transportation Planner who I work with quite closely.  Here is her
> response:
> Steve,
>
>
>
> I got some feedback on the cost of the audible pedestrian crossing
> signals.
> The cost highly depends on whether or not electrical is already available.
> For one signal installed in an area that already has the conduits is
> around
> $75,000. It's twice that much if you need to run electrical, but of course
> that depends on the distance you need to run to connect to the nearest
> conduit.
>
>
>
> So it seems to me that the near-worst case scenario is $1,200,000 for 8
> signals and electrical-not the 73M you were quoted.
>
>
>
> Jackie Eastwood
>
> Transportation  Planner
>
> La Crosse Area Planning Committee
>
> 400 4th St N, Room 2300
>
> La Crosse, WI  54601
>
> PH: 608.785.6141
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Albert J Rizzi
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:46 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> Interesting to hear that the levels of volume are adjustable. Would be
> great
> in those places where some would think it might disturb the peace and
> tranquility  of the businesses or passers by in a thread we talked on.
>
> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> CEO/Founder
> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> New York, New York  10004
> www.myblindspot.org
> PH: 917-553-0347
> Fax: 212-858-5759
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it."
>
>
> Visit us on Facebook LinkedIn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Tracy Carcione
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:13 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>
> The audible signal near me is not a chirp, thank Goodness.  My light is
> one
> where the pedestrian has to push a button to activate the walk sign.
> When the walk signal starts, a voice says "walk sign is on for all
> crossings".  The voice repeats as long as the walk sign is on, about 2 and
> a
> half times.  I think when the voice stops, the walk sign is flashing to
> show
> you don't have a lot of time left to cross.
> I think, if it were a 4-way stop, the voice would indicate which street
> had
> the walk sign.
> To me, it's much clearer than the chirp, and less piercing.  We had to get
> the traffic engineers back to tone it down a bit, since they'd put it in
> at
> full blast and it was too loud.  Now they turned it down a lot, and it's
> good.
> Tracy
>
>
>
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