[nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

Tue Mar 30 21:07:14 UTC 2010

When I did my study in 2001, the cost of the APS I used was $500 each and 
required 8 units per intersection at a total cost of $4000 per intersection. 
As stated, this did not include installation, which could feasibly bring the 
total cost to $7000 - 8000.

Fraternally yours,
Marion

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals

> Hmmm.  I'm pretty sure the traffic engineer said the signal I requested
> would run somewhere between 3000-7000, depending what model they got. They
> got the cheapest, of course, but it's fine.
> Not to dispute your contact, of course.  Maybe your county already has a
> preferred model, and mine didn't (me being the first person to push them
> far enough to get one actually installed.)
> Tracy
>
>
>
>> Just as a bit of clarification on the APS cost, I contacted our County's
>> Transportation Planner who I work with quite closely.  Here is her
>> response:
>> Steve,
>>
>>
>>
>> I got some feedback on the cost of the audible pedestrian crossing
>> signals.
>> The cost highly depends on whether or not electrical is already 
>> available.
>> For one signal installed in an area that already has the conduits is
>> around
>> $75,000. It's twice that much if you need to run electrical, but of 
>> course
>> that depends on the distance you need to run to connect to the nearest
>> conduit.
>>
>>
>>
>> So it seems to me that the near-worst case scenario is $1,200,000 for 8
>> signals and electrical-not the 73M you were quoted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jackie Eastwood
>>
>> Transportation  Planner
>>
>> La Crosse Area Planning Committee
>>
>> 400 4th St N, Room 2300
>>
>> La Crosse, WI  54601
>>
>> PH: 608.785.6141
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Albert J Rizzi
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:46 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>>
>> Interesting to hear that the levels of volume are adjustable. Would be
>> great
>> in those places where some would think it might disturb the peace and
>> tranquility  of the businesses or passers by in a thread we talked on.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 7:13 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Audible Traffic Signals
>>
>> The audible signal near me is not a chirp, thank Goodness.  My light is
>> one
>> where the pedestrian has to push a button to activate the walk sign.
>> When the walk signal starts, a voice says "walk sign is on for all
>> crossings".  The voice repeats as long as the walk sign is on, about 2 
>> and
>> a
>> half times.  I think when the voice stops, the walk sign is flashing to
>> show
>> you don't have a lot of time left to cross.
>> I think, if it were a 4-way stop, the voice would indicate which street
>> had
>> the walk sign.
>> To me, it's much clearer than the chirp, and less piercing.  We had to 
>> get
>> the traffic engineers back to tone it down a bit, since they'd put it in
>> at
>> full blast and it was too loud.  Now they turned it down a lot, and it's
>> good.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
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