[nagdu] harnesses

Thu Nov 11 04:23:53 UTC 2010

This may sound like a stupid question, but I haven't got my dog yet so I don't fully understand everything that goes on?
Why does one need a harness with a detatchible handle? Is this kind of like how some people prefer folding canes to rigid ones?

Thanks
Jeff Young
On Nov 10, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Tamara Smith-Kinney wrote:

> Yeeks!  I'm glad it was only the one seizure and that you stuck to your
> guns.  The sport harness is terrific for hiking!
> 
> So I find myself wondering at the reasons for your program's policy about
> harnesses...  Not that it matters to me, I just find it curious.
> 
> Tami Smith-Kinney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of GARY STEEVES
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone:
> 
> I'm going to ask a question which will undoubtably get some people's
> response. :) I asked my school about using another harness since I am
> thinking about using the paw power sports harness on Bogart when we do some
> summer hiking. After doing a hike with him this summer I think a lighter
> harness designed for that type of action might work better. I asked my
> school if  they had a policy about using other harnesses on Bogart and, not
> surprisingly to me, they do have a policy forbidding the use of other
> harnesses on their graduates. They are also a school that maintains
> ownership of the dog which is a bit annoying but I doubt, since I am a
> pretty strong advocate for what I need, will be an issue. For example,
> Bogart had some sort of ceizure only 2 weeks after we got home from
> training. Luckily the trainer was with us on a visit so she witnessed what
> happend. If I had been an insecure person and didn't say that I want to keep
> bogart since who knows if this will happen again, they would have taken him
> back to the school with  them that day. I think this would have happened
> with most schools since they were concerned what I would do if he had
> another incident and I was by myself but I was able to assure them I knew
> how to handle the situation and always have a cane with me in case something
> was to happen to bogart anyways. They respect my abilities and that was the
> end of the conversation.
> 
> Oops, sort of side tracked. Does any other school have a similar harness
> policy? Yeah, I know, what they don't know won't hurt them so I certainly
> won't hesitate from buying a sport harness if I think it is what is best for
> bogart and myself based on our activities.
> 
> Thanks
> Gary
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:36 am
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] harnesses
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> 
>> My brother has a GDB dog, and a detachable harness handle, and 
>> it does not
>> come flying off while he's working the dog.  Surely, if 
>> that happened
>> often, GDB would not issue them.
>> I don't think GDB would sell a non-grad a harness.  It has 
>> their name on
>> it, after all.  Like asking Dodge to sell you their 
>> trademark thingy to
>> stick on your Chevy.
>> 
>> I haven't bought one, but I rather thought that the Pawpower harnesses
>> would cost similar to what a school would charge a non-grad, if 
>> you could
>> get them to sell you one at all.
>> Tracy
>> 
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know we have discussed this subject a lot on here, so 
>> forgive me for
>>> bringing it up again. So I called SE yesterday to see if they 
>> would even
>>> think of developing a harness for a grad, who needs a 
>> removable handle.
>>> And
>>> they said they have tried, but can't make one that the handle 
>> does not
>>> deattach while working the dog. So here is my dilemma. With me 
>> in cars,
>>> and
>>> on the go just much more in general. I am in desperate need of 
>> a harness
>>> that has a removable handle. I have seen the new GDB harness, 
>> with the
>>> quick
>>> release handles. Does anyone have one? And have you noticed if 
>> the handle
>>> deattaches while working the dog? And is it possible for me, a 
>> guide dog
>>> user to get my hands on a GDB harness? My first pup was from 
>> GDB, but when
>>> I
>>> retired her, they took back the harness. But that was not an 
>> harness with
>>> the quick release handle either. Didn't know if anyone else 
>> has a dog from
>>> one school, but uses a harness from a different school. Do the 
>> schools> frown
>>> upon this? Exchanging of harness and dogs? If this doesn't 
>> work, I am
>>> seriously thinking of purchasing a PawPowers harness.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for letting me ask questions,
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
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